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shabamon
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   Posted: 9/9/2025 4:27:16 PM 
The Blue Ribbon preview is out. Boals of course is complimentary of all the players but not much detail on what the starters and rotation will be, but as for some nuggets...

-Hadaway was averaging 12/8 in the first four MAC games and then we were 6-10 without him. I don't know how you keep him out of the starting lineup.
-Conners will be the volume shooter. Elliott is a core guy
-Breath was 11th in the country in defensive rebounding %. Despite his height, he can play one on one as a center. Highly complimentary of his strength.
-Evans will "fight" for minutes at the 4/5
-"really excited" about Kuany
-Burris is a threat to make a shot any time he touches it
-Confirmed Mosley is out for the year
-Kelly is probably ready to help now. High motor and athleticism and makes positive things happen, which is how I always described Hadaway.
-Fisher's offense sounds way ahead of his defense. Needs to get stronger.
-Reese is a walk-on

To me it sounds like Fisher is at the end of the healthy list, Evans/Kuany will be a competition, Sheldon is part of the core group who have been here and played at least a year, but could be passed by Burris if his shot hasn't returned, and Kelly will get some run.
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   Posted: 9/9/2025 7:21:20 PM 
Thx for the preview. Sounds like a bit deeper bench than last few seasons. I think Hadaway could be a 1st or 2nd team All MAC....


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Bobcat Tattoo
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   Posted: 9/9/2025 10:35:22 PM 
Team wise, Blue Ribbon has us finishing 4th: https://getsomemaction.com/news/2025/9/8/mens-basketball-...

Surprised to see UMass so low (6th) and Buffalo so high (9th).

Pav is on their First Team FWIW.
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   Posted: 9/10/2025 3:49:37 PM 
shabamon wrote:

-Burris is a threat to make a shot any time he touches it


Do we go into this season believing Burris is a #WalkingBucket???

There seems to be a little hype brewing here.


#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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OhioCatFan
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   Posted: 9/10/2025 3:51:53 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
shabamon wrote:

-Burris is a threat to make a shot any time he touches it


Do we go into this season believing Burris is a #WalkingBucket???

There seems to be a little hype brewing here.



I think the key word here is "make a shot" as distinct from "make a basket."


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   Posted: 9/10/2025 10:32:47 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
shabamon wrote:

-Burris is a threat to make a shot any time he touches it


Do we go into this season believing Burris is a #WalkingBucket???

There seems to be a little hype brewing here.



Plan to use the *wet again* Pirates of the Caribbean gif early and often.
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   Posted: 9/11/2025 8:52:03 AM 
Bobcat Tattoo wrote:
Team wise, Blue Ribbon has us finishing 4th: https://getsomemaction.com/news/2025/9/8/mens-basketball-...

Surprised to see UMass so low (6th) and Buffalo so high (9th).

Pav is on their First Team FWIW.


I think it’s anyone’s conference this year in the top 5. I’d probably move UMass up and Kent/Toledo down. Everyone took a hit this portal season. I’ll go as far as saying I think Toledo takes a huge step back program wise and finishes 6th or 7th. Javan leaving for Athens just seems like Tod K is losing his touch.

Excited to read the tidbits about Burris. Spacing and shooting is our biggest question mark going into the season. Despite my hopeless optimism every year, I like this personnel group more than the previous two.

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   Posted: 9/11/2025 9:19:19 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
Despite my hopeless optimism every year, I like this personnel group more than the previous two.



For the first time in what feels like forever, they actually have players playing in their true positions. And some depth at those positions. It's gonna be wild not seeing a 6'3" small forward, or a 6'4" guard trying to box out centers.
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   Posted: 9/11/2025 9:39:00 AM 
I am most excited to see Kelly and his athleticism. It's been a while since we had a truly athletic 3 and D kind of guy with size, strength, hops and skill and he appears to have all of that. I really liked Fisher's game in high school and look forward to him adding strength to his slight frame. Burris worked hard to get stronger last year and is ready to step up. Hopefully Pavs can get some rest this season and we can trust Ajay and Sheldon to give good minutes. Elliott is the key here for me. Can he take that next step because by year end last year he was a key contributor.
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   Posted: 9/11/2025 7:57:43 PM 
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings


Last Edited: 9/11/2025 8:02:04 PM by OUcat

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   Posted: 9/11/2025 11:53:39 PM 
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

. . .



I'm no expert, but I think that this is crazy. UMass is not that far behind Akron, and I think we are much better than this ranking would indicate. I bet money (not much of it, but actual money) that UMass will in the top two at the end of the season.


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   Posted: 9/12/2025 9:52:34 AM 
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings




I think if Nate Johnson and Okonkwo were returning, Akron is the sure fire choice. Otherwise, its the easy choice because Akron has repeated as MAC champs and won 3/4.
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   Posted: 9/12/2025 10:38:06 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings




I think if Nate Johnson and Okonkwo were returning, Akron is the sure fire choice. Otherwise, its the easy choice because Akron has repeated as MAC champs and won 3/4.


Yeah this rating system isn't something I'd subscribe to until maybe the middle of the season when we've seen teams actually play ball. One of the metrics used is called "Recent Form" where a team receives a rating based on how well they've played recently. And those games carry more weight than games played earlier than the year, according to his scoring methodology. So in theory, the rating could be based off games from last season?

Also I don't know if his preseason rankings take into account SOS, but it sounds like he does adjust for opponent.

https://blog.evanmiya.com/p/introducing-relative-ratings-and

Last Edited: 9/12/2025 10:38:56 AM by GoCats105

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   Posted: 9/12/2025 3:23:23 PM 
FJC31 wrote:
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings




I think if Nate Johnson and Okonkwo were returning, Akron is the sure fire choice. Otherwise, its the easy choice because Akron has repeated as MAC champs and won 3/4.



Toledo was MAC Champs for three straight seasons before last year ... Akron won the MAC Tournament 3 of last 4 years. Big difference!!!

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   Posted: 9/12/2025 3:50:32 PM 
OUcat wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings




I think if Nate Johnson and Okonkwo were returning, Akron is the sure fire choice. Otherwise, its the easy choice because Akron has repeated as MAC champs and won 3/4.



Toledo was MAC Champs for three straight seasons before last year ... Akron won the MAC Tournament 3 of last 4 years. Big difference!!!



Yea, the one that leads to March Madness matters more.

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   Posted: 9/12/2025 8:09:13 PM 
FJC31 wrote:
OUcat wrote:
FJC31 wrote:
OUcat wrote:
Here's how Evan Miya sees the MAC this season:

Akron 5.8
Miami 4.5
Kent 3.1
UMass 1.3
Ohio 1.2
Toledo -2.1

The rest of the MAC has negative ratings worse than Toledo's. Haven't followed his rankings much in the past, but what concerns me about these numbers is the noticeable separation between each of the Top 4 teams and the negative rankings for teams 6-13.

Usually, no matter how different folks rank the MAC, preseason, the top few teams are usually close enough for argument. But not this ranking.

This indicates the top of the league is considerably ahead of the bottom, and the top 3 teams aren't very close to each other, either. Has Groce taken Akron that far ahead of the rest of the MAC, with the Zips ranking almost twice as good as No. 3 Kent St. and nearly three times or more as good as everyone else?

PS - I couldn't cut and past his rankings, so I had to type it in. He also has a Top 15 player ranking and Simmons comes in at No. 5.

https://evanmiya.com/?team_ratings




I think if Nate Johnson and Okonkwo were returning, Akron is the sure fire choice. Otherwise, its the easy choice because Akron has repeated as MAC champs and won 3/4.



Toledo was MAC Champs for three straight seasons before last year ... Akron won the MAC Tournament 3 of last 4 years. Big difference!!!



Yea, the one that leads to March Madness matters more.



True ... but still doesn't make them MAC Champs.

MAC Tournament winner, yes.

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