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Cellis033
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  Message Not Read  Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/12/2022 4:02:23 PM 
To be honest, while this year has been a mixed bag so far, I'm glad we are allowing the younger guys to get playing time and experience they need in their development and it will be huge going forward. Just look at the depth chart regarding position:

Forwards

Dwight Wilson III - Exhausts Eligibility this year

Ben Roderick - 2024 Grad ( If COVID year is used)
G Wiz - 2025 Grad
AJ Clayton - 2025 Grad
IJ Ezuma - Redshirt 22-23, 2026 Grad
Aiden Hadaway - 2026 Grad

Ben Nicol ('23 COMMIT) - 2027 Grad

Guards

DeVon Baker - 2023 Grad

Miles Brown - 2024 Grad ( If COVID year is used)
Jaylin Hunter - 2024 Grad
Olumide Adelodun - 2025 Grad
AJ Brown - 2026 Grad
Ajay Sheldon - 2026 Grad
Elmore James IV - 2026 Grad
Quinn Corna - 2026 Grad
Ben Estis - Redshirt 22-23, 2027 Grad

Tons of young talent will rise in the rank in the next few years, and I believe Boals may have redshirted Ezuma and Estis to provide additional depth in later years. I'm sure if we have a few more successful seasons Boals will 100% be offered an extension. But, I will be interested to see how these young guys develop and if the transfer portal will hurt us later on.






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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/12/2022 4:43:13 PM 
In the world of the transfer portal are you ever building for the future or are you searching for lightning in a bottle?
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Cellis033
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/12/2022 4:52:21 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
In the world of the transfer portal are you ever building for the future or are you searching for lightning in a bottle?


I think you should still build for the future even with the portal but it is an excellent source for finding talented and at times undervalued players. While I expect we lose atleast 1-2 guys a year to the portal, we can easily use it to plug in other players that suit our system if needed.


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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/12/2022 5:58:14 PM 
Cellis033 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
In the world of the transfer portal are you ever building for the future or are you searching for lightning in a bottle?


I think you should still build for the future even with the portal but it is an excellent source for finding talented and at times undervalued players. While I expect we lose atleast 1-2 guys a year to the portal, we can easily use it to plug in other players that suit our system if needed.


I think you'll see that some non-P6 coaches (hopefully Boals is one of them) will be able to build out of the portal by keeping most of his good players and pushing (gently) most this non-productive players into the outgoing portal. A lot of this has to due with a coach's personality and the type of climate the coach builds within the program. NIL will make a difference, but I think some non-P6 programs will have great success with the portal where others, perhaps a majority, will be in a state of perpetual player churning, turnover and turmoil. That last I wish on that School in Oxford!


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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/12/2022 6:51:21 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:

I think you'll see that some non-P6 coaches (hopefully Boals is one of them) will be able to build out of the portal by keeping most of his good players and pushing (gently) most this non-productive players into the outgoing portal. A lot of this has to due with a coach's personality and the type of climate the coach builds within the program. NIL will make a difference, but I think some non-P6 programs will have great success with the portal where others, perhaps a majority, will be in a state of perpetual player churning, turnover and turmoil. That last I wish on that School in Oxford!


This is generally what Boals has done. We have lost a lot of players to the portal but Sears and BVP were thr first to that were not really replaceable. It is why we are struggling this season with respect to the prior two.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/13/2022 11:49:56 AM 
I'm not as optimistic in regards to keeping the guys we want to keep.

All it takes is one call from a "bigger" program and then Boals is now forced to resell his program and why they should stay. I'd think that's a pretty uncomfortable conversation.
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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/13/2022 12:20:30 PM 
AJ Brown looks like the only one who would be recruited to a bigger P5 type school. Hope he likes Athens and isn't actively looking for a salary, er, I mean more NIL $....


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/13/2022 2:02:43 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
In the world of the transfer portal are you ever building for the future or are you searching for lightning in a bottle?


Searching for lightning in bottle is the more reasonable expectation
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/13/2022 4:22:16 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:
AJ Brown looks like the only one who would be recruited to a bigger P5 type school. Hope he likes Athens and isn't actively looking for a salary, er, I mean more NIL $....



What makes Brown’s case interesting is he was recruited by bigger programs and still chose the mid major route. That is, unless he didn’t get the P5 offer he wanted. However, still seems like he could have carved out minutes at that level to eventually transfer to a different P5 program, so he who really knows with him.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/14/2022 8:10:44 AM 
FJC31 wrote:
Ohio69 wrote:
AJ Brown looks like the only one who would be recruited to a bigger P5 type school. Hope he likes Athens and isn't actively looking for a salary, er, I mean more NIL $....



What makes Brown’s case interesting is he was recruited by bigger programs and still chose the mid major route. That is, unless he didn’t get the P5 offer he wanted. However, still seems like he could have carved out minutes at that level to eventually transfer to a different P5 program, so he who really knows with him.


A.J. seems to really love OU and coach Boals. I would only think he may look elsewhere depending on whether his brother goes big or goes Bobcats. He is an absolute stud and is getting a ton of big-time looks. I believe if Isaiah came to OU, the Brown Brothers, coupled with our other young guys, could do some MAC damage.
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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/14/2022 8:57:33 AM 

So do programs start holding a scholarship for Spring transfers every year now? Or just assume they'll have at least one available from a departure every Spring?


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Building for the Future
   Posted: 12/14/2022 10:54:34 AM 
Ohio69 wrote:
So do programs start holding a scholarship for Spring transfers every year now? Or just assume they'll have at least one available from a departure every Spring?



The latter, I think.

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