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Some consider him the best recruit out of Michigan. Last name of Hannah, I believe. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,914 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/7/2022 3:40:54 PM  Not anymore. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,711 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/7/2022 10:03:52 PM  how about that? Bates goes first. See if the other half of that comment happens. I always liked COach Bates. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,101 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/7/2022 11:37:34 PM  Coach Bates is a good coach and a good person. I'm sorry that things didn't work out there. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,299 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/8/2022 8:05:59 AM  Jeff McKinney wrote: Coach Bates is a good coach and a good person. I'm sorry that things didn't work out there. Hawkins left him as bare a cupboard as you can leave a coach. Hawkins is a legend but dude did not help Bates out at all. Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/8/2022 9:27:39 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: Coach Bates is a good coach and a good person. I'm sorry that things didn't work out there. Hawkins left him as bare a cupboard as you can leave a coach. Hawkins is a legend but dude did not help Bates out at all. He also got a contract that was short and well below league average... and had to guide the team through the mess of COVID from the start. He definitely was not set up for long-term success. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,418 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/8/2022 9:34:50 AM  If you want to fire Hawkins, fine. The program was average and only occasionally good. But they delayed the rebuild by promoting an assistant and paying a bottom dollar salary. Wonder how Bates feels. Raw that he wasn't set up for success, or thankful for the head coaching experience. EDIT: I guess hiring Bates was sort of the best they could do given the circumstances at the time. They fired Hawkins days before the Covid shutdown and then the university went on a hiring freeze. Sucks huh? Last Edited: 3/8/2022 9:37:40 AM by shabamon Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,711 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/8/2022 12:42:02 PM  shabamon wrote: If you want to fire Hawkins, fine. The program was average and only occasionally good. But they delayed the rebuild by promoting an assistant and paying a bottom dollar salary. Wonder how Bates feels. Raw that he wasn't set up for success, or thankful for the head coaching experience. EDIT: I guess hiring Bates was sort of the best they could do given the circumstances at the time. They fired Hawkins days before the Covid shutdown and then the university went on a hiring freeze. Sucks huh? That's one take. COach has been there and stepped away before. HE was always good to our Indiana kids so I liked that he got the job and hired asst with Hooiser connections. I am not so sure they didi it on the cheap as you implied or whether they just knew what they had in COach Bates. TIme will tell and it will interesting to watch what is next for the Florida Alum. THere is always a backstory. I tend to watch and wait before pronouncing judgement. More than meets the eye here. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,789 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/9/2022 10:21:34 AM  bornacatfan wrote: shabamon wrote: If you want to fire Hawkins, fine. The program was average and only occasionally good. But they delayed the rebuild by promoting an assistant and paying a bottom dollar salary. Wonder how Bates feels. Raw that he wasn't set up for success, or thankful for the head coaching experience. EDIT: I guess hiring Bates was sort of the best they could do given the circumstances at the time. They fired Hawkins days before the Covid shutdown and then the university went on a hiring freeze. Sucks huh? That's one take. COach has been there and stepped away before. HE was always good to our Indiana kids so I liked that he got the job and hired asst with Hooiser connections. I am not so sure they didi it on the cheap as you implied or whether they just knew what they had in COach Bates. TIme will tell and it will interesting to watch what is next for the Florida Alum. THere is always a backstory. I tend to watch and wait before pronouncing judgement. More than meets the eye here. That was the way I remember it going down sadly. They couldn't get anyone on campus and had poor timing for firing/hiring a coach in the MAC. At the end of the day, what WMU will do next is telling of the trajectory of that dept. Especially given how cheap they have looked to people internally and externally. Back to Top ramern General User Member Since: 3/9/2022 Post Count: 1 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/9/2022 12:22:44 PM  Coach Bates didn't step down. He was told he could resign or be fired. Hopefully he'll land somewhere better. Too bad, he changed A LOT in the program in a short time frame. Last Edited: 3/9/2022 12:23:19 PM by ramern Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,293 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 3/9/2022 4:11:49 PM  Looks like Tom Crean will be available after UGA's season is over. A man maybe still with Midwest ties and might be available cheap since he'll get a $3.2 mil buyout. After failing in the SEC and MAC rebuild might be what he wants. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,293 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 4/4/2022 5:13:20 PM  Hoop Dirt says Dwayne Stephens moving from East Lansing to K-zoo. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,156 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Western Michigan    Posted: 4/5/2022 11:00:26 AM  Pataskala wrote: Hoop Dirt says Dwayne Stephens moving from East Lansing to K-zoo. Another excellent hire for a MAC school. With the new coaches at BSU, Miami and now WMU, it looks to me like the conference is really stepping up its game in terms of high quality coaches. And don't forget Stan Heath at EMU, who was in his first year this past season. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. 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