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Topic: Big 3's going to need help

Topic: Big 3's going to need help

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bobcatsquared
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Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/4/2022 8:54:55 PM

All Ohio fans have to be pleased with 11-2 start. But I'm concerned about what the Cats will accomplish over the next 2 months if Boals can't find some help for Sears/Carter/BVP.

* BRod and Brown, who averaged a combined 50-plus pts/game as h.s. seniors and around 17 combined pts last year are currently averaging 14 pts/game this season (and that's with Brown getting starter's minutes v. coming off the bench last year).

* Boals is going less and less with Clayton/Towns/IJ, especially in the 2nd half at Akron. (Still getting quality and quantity minutes from Schmock)

The Cats are winning with this formula. But like the CBSSN announcer mentioned in the first half tonight, for Ohio to do some damage nationally, they're going to need other players to step up their games.

Last Edited: 1/4/2022 9:02:58 PM by bobcatsquared

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/4/2022 9:36:32 PM

I�ve seen glimpses of improvement to Towns on offense and like what he brings on D and rebounding. Not sure why he doesn�t get more minutes.

While B-Rod didn�t hit multiple threes, at least he didn�t brick a ton of them tonight. Hopefully that and a decent game against USC Upstate are signs of things improving.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/4/2022 9:55:25 PM

Towns is gonna have to be our Lundo. He needs to be that spark off the bench. He�s fast, athletic and 6�8/6�9. I�m not saying he needs to be a double double or 15pts+ a night. If he can give us 8pts and 7 or 8 boards a night, that�s solid.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 12:36:08 AM

Bobcats need to navigate foul trouble with the MAC refs. Bench is key when the MAC refs decide to call it tight.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 11:06:01 AM

Cats5 wrote:

Unfortunately, I have seen zero evidence that he's ready to do that.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 12:23:43 PM

BurritoBuggy4 wrote:

Cats5 wrote:

Unfortunately, I have seen zero evidence that he's ready to do that.

Consistently no but he�s shown flashes

Bobcat1998
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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 1:32:43 PM

I would actually prefer to see more of Schmock and Sears together with BRod on the bench and have Miles play the 3. I know it's a smaller team but Schmock just brings great energy. When Miles fouled out I had no reservations or worries knowing that Schmock was coming into the game. Dude is just tough. I have a buddy who covers high school ball in Columbus for one of the weeklies and he said Ajay Sheldon is like that. Smaller but just a dog on the court not afraid to mix it up and take shots. I agree about Towns and it seems like at some point Ezuma's going to need to play with our lack of bigs. Granger is still the weird one for me. He goes from being a 7 to 8 minute backup to DW3 to redshirt? Still one of my favorite personalities but how does he not play this year?

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 2:54:12 PM

This is the one area of concern I have with Boals so far.

Outside of Sears -- and that's obviously a big caveat because Sears is great -- he hasn't managed to recruit many guys who have been consistent contributors. McDay and Roderick are up and down, and Towns, Granger, Clayton, and Adelodun, don't seem ready to contribute yet.

He gets credit for getting Carter back and getting Wilson, but it would be nice to see a bit more consistency in recruiting.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 4:25:54 PM

Random hypothetical...but if Preston came back, DW3 was healthy, and Lunden did not leave...how in the world would you distribute 200 minutes per game on this team? I am not saying this would be what I'd do, but just to show you how difficult and what an amazing problem it would be:

Preston - 35
Sears - 30
Wilson - 25
Carter - 25
BVP - 25
McDay - 20
Roderick - 20
Brown - 20

And that leaves 0 for Schmock, Clayton, etc. I know you shouldn't play the what if game, but the idea fascinates me. Essentially everyone would have to take cuts in playing time to accommodate Carter and Sears.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 4:34:19 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

If Preston stays, we don't recruit Schmock, and I don't know that Sears gets 30 minutes.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 6:01:47 PM

shabamon wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

If Preston stays, we don't recruit Schmock, and I don't know that Sears gets 30 minutes.

If Preston stays; Sears flies the coop!

bobcatsquared
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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 6:10:47 PM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

I've noticed Boals has gone with Schmock at the end of halves more and more. There's a reason he wants Schmock and Sears on the floor at the same time during important junctures in the game.

Schmock, Sears and Brown playing together? Not sure that's a good idea unless foul situation calls for that combo.

Last Edited: 1/5/2022 6:11:24 PM by bobcatsquared

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 7:38:01 PM

Boals said something before the season that I thought was insightful. He said that every team is different. Last year�s team is connected forever, but this year is a completely different team. That�s turning out to be true in so many unexpected ways. It�s a great way to keep the team in the moment and focused on the next game up. Truly great leadership by Boals.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/5/2022 8:44:28 PM

MonroeClassmate wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

If Preston stays, we don't recruit Schmock, and I don't know that Sears gets 30 minutes.

If Preston stays; Sears flies the coop!

Huh? No

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/6/2022 10:16:12 AM

bornacatfan wrote:

MonroeClassmate wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

If Preston stays, we don't recruit Schmock, and I don't know that Sears gets 30 minutes.

If Preston stays; Sears flies the coop!

Huh? No

Right, most people who enter the portal do it in the spring when their choices are more wide open. As the late spring and early summer went on Preston's stock was rising. There was a very good chance that Preston was going to come back to Ohio when last season ended and there was no sign Sears wanted to leave. Preston, in theory, could have played in 22-23. I expect that Sears knew that after he got his degree that there was no reason for Preston to stay. He might as well go to the D-League if he still wasn't NBA ready.

Schmock took Preston's scholarship. We needed PG depth and getting a guy that led one of the best programs in D2 for a year was a good option considering the timing. But he would clearly not be getting any minutes in the scenario with Preston on the roster and a healthy Wilson and McDay. I think Sears would be under 30 for sure which is weird to think about for a potential MAC player of the year. Preston and Sears would not have been on the court at the same time for about half of the minutes. The real question might be about if we played 6 or 7 quality opponents in a row. I honestly do not think under this schedule that Preston would be averaging 35. Boals would be confident enough in most games that he would want to keep his best players fresh all year and get at least a few minutes for Clayton, Ezuma, and Towns and a lot of games would be easy wins. I think after watching what we have left play the way it has, it is likely that under the best scenario we would have been one of the best five teams or so not in the power 6.

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RE: Big 3's going to need help

Posted: 1/6/2022 1:14:25 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

MonroeClassmate wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

If Preston stays, we don't recruit Schmock, and I don't know that Sears gets 30 minutes.

If Preston stays; Sears flies the coop!

Huh? No

Agreed. If Preston stays, the two are getting the most minutes of anyone at the 1 and the 2, and sharing time as ball handlers. A year ago, at least in my opinion, Sears was easily one of the best 3-4 players on this team. This year he's the best. He would have played a bunch this year regardless of Preston's decision.

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