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Topic:  NCAA Scholarships - COVID
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 10:25:49 AM 
Posted this in another thread, but for clarity if anyone is interested or had questions about it.

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So according to this, the NCAA will allow schools to be over the limit for 2021-22. (Essentially Dwight Wilson's scholarship won't count towards the limit.) It's up to the school on whether or not they can afford it.

https://www.ncsasports.org/coronavirus-sports/ncaa-eligib...

There are two factors that control the availability of scholarships at the D1 and D2 levels. The NCAA scholarship limits per sport and whether or not the school is fully funded. For D1 fall sports, seniors who have scholarships and who will be using the extra year of eligibility will not count against the team’s scholarship limit for the 2021-22 season. The D2 level has not provided any waivers, so there is no potential for D2 programs to offer additional scholarship money for fall sports recruits.

This does not mean a college will go over the limit of maximum scholarships. Each school will decide how many scholarships they can fund for each team depending on their budget. In a recent survey, 80% of college coaches said they do not plan on cutting scholarships as part of their budget cutting measures. For recruits pursuing an athletic scholarship, hopefully this means the maximum, and possibly over the maximum number of scholarships, will be available for the 2021-22 school year.

Here is an example of how this could play out for a college team:

-A fully funded NCAA D1 FBS football team has a maximum of 85 scholarships. All D1 FBS scholarships are full-rides.

-For the 2020-21 season, the team has 25 seniors on scholarship. Let’s say all of these seniors get an extra year of eligibility.

-For the 2021-22 school year, this program could bring back up to 25 seniors and all of those seniors are eligible to keep their scholarships.

-If the school is able to fund the maximum number of scholarships it can for the 2021-22 school year, they could have 110 athletes on scholarships. That means 25 returning seniors and 85 others.

-The determining factor is whether or not a school can afford to give scholarships over the maximum.

Last Edited: 3/25/2021 10:26:58 AM by GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 10:37:29 AM 
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 11:29:56 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 12:04:30 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


Seeing how we are bringing back almost every single football senior, I'm sure we will be fine in paying for Wilson and the extra scholarship.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 2:14:00 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


That part I get, I'm just thinking in my mind -- if it allows for it, could Ohio, or any school for that matter, opt to sign an additional player or two? With Clayton for example, if the whole group of front court players return, someone might as well red-shirt, right? So what stops a team/school from carrying 15-16 scholarship players next year? That's the piece I'm trying to get clear in my head.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 2:15:10 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


That part I get, I'm just thinking in my mind -- if it allows for it, could Ohio, or any school for that matter, opt to sign an additional player or two? With Clayton for example, if the whole group of front court players return, someone might as well red-shirt, right? So what stops a team/school from carrying 15-16 scholarship players next year? That's the piece I'm trying to get clear in my head.


You will only be able to be over by the number of players who opt for the extra year. It's not just load up on players.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 3:16:41 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


Seeing how we are bringing back almost every single football senior, I'm sure we will be fine in paying for Wilson and the extra scholarship.


I think at least five Bobcat football Srs. who played in the fall are not on the spring 2021 roster. Evans DL, Kitrell OL, Dorsa LB, and both Motleys DB's. I could be missing a player or two.
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Antonio Pierce
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 4:02:49 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


That part I get, I'm just thinking in my mind -- if it allows for it, could Ohio, or any school for that matter, opt to sign an additional player or two? With Clayton for example, if the whole group of front court players return, someone might as well red-shirt, right? So what stops a team/school from carrying 15-16 scholarship players next year? That's the piece I'm trying to get clear in my head.


You will only be able to be over by the number of players who opt for the extra year. It's not just load up on players.


So will/can anyone in our junior class graduate this Spring? Would that scenario create an open scholarship?

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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: NCAA Scholarships - COVID
   Posted: 3/25/2021 9:51:06 PM 
Antonio Pierce wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
So if I read this correctly, a college basketball team could keep the current group -- for this year only -- and then add, in theory, as many as it wants?

So in Ohio's case, a few players could be added on top of the 13-14 scholarships that were already committed to?

I'm very confused about how this is going to look. I can see why so many are in the portal "weighing options" now if this is the case.


Think of it like us bringing in AJ Clayton (he's the only commit we have right now) as the scholarship to fill for Wilson's departure. But because of Covid, the NCAA is giving us the option to bring back Wilson if we can afford it. So it sounds like we can and we'll have 14 barring any more departures or late signees.


That part I get, I'm just thinking in my mind -- if it allows for it, could Ohio, or any school for that matter, opt to sign an additional player or two? With Clayton for example, if the whole group of front court players return, someone might as well red-shirt, right? So what stops a team/school from carrying 15-16 scholarship players next year? That's the piece I'm trying to get clear in my head.


You will only be able to be over by the number of players who opt for the extra year. It's not just load up on players.


So will/can anyone in our junior class graduate this Spring? Would that scenario create an open scholarship?



The only way a scholarship would open up is if someone leaves for any reason. The way things are these days, it would be surprising if someone doesn't transfer out. There's a guy or two who clearly is never going to get much playing time, but sometimes those guys are fine in that role.
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