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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 2:52:23 PM 
Other than the individual game threads...

https://getsomemaction.com/tournaments/?id=131

-This has to be one of the weirdest brackets we've seen in a while with Buffalo, Kent State and Ohio (not mentioning Toledo and WMU) all playing in first round games.

-Still hate this format of all these different sports properties getting selective rounds of broadcasting. ESPN+ is fine for the early rounds, but I do wish CBS Sports Network would get the Championship game rather than ESPN2. They do a great job considering how few games the MAC gets on that network.

-If you're Akron, I can't decide if you've got the better end of this deal or not. On one hand, you've beaten everybody on your side of the bracket already. On the other both Ohio games were tight late and Buffalo did beat you on your home floor. And both Buffalo and Ohio travel just as well to Cleveland as you do, especially for the early rounds.
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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 3:33:07 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Other than the individual game threads...

https://getsomemaction.com/tournaments/?id=131

-This has to be one of the weirdest brackets we've seen in a while with Buffalo, Kent State and Ohio (not mentioning Toledo and WMU) all playing in first round games.

-Still hate this format of all these different sports properties getting selective rounds of broadcasting. ESPN+ is fine for the early rounds, but I do wish CBS Sports Network would get the Championship game rather than ESPN2. They do a great job considering how few games the MAC gets on that network.

-If you're Akron, I can't decide if you've got the better end of this deal or not. On one hand, you've beaten everybody on your side of the bracket already. On the other both Ohio games were tight late and Buffalo did beat you on your home floor. And both Buffalo and Ohio travel just as well to Cleveland as you do, especially for the early rounds.


As a quick comparison, the A10 also has this issue. Some first round games on NBCSN, semifinals on CBSSN, and the final on CBS.
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 8:40:49 PM 
ESPN2 for the championship is way better than CBSN.

"Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season.

My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8

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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:03:54 PM 
Finish em, Miami.
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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:16:14 PM 
Down goes the 2 time defending champs. I love it.

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B.B.A. 2003

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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:18:04 PM 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wait, wait

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Suck it, Buffalo
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GroverBall
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:18:42 PM 

What is . . .
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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:23:43 PM 
Yeah, don't think there'd be too many predicting in November that OHIO would be playing later than Buffalo.
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BuddyLee
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 9:25:53 PM 
Wow Buffalo losing is kind of a shocker. But still should be a pretty good attendance week in Cleveland with Akron, KSU, BG, OU, Toledo, and Miami having big fanbases in the area.
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/9/2020 11:47:44 PM 
Unless we beat Akron they may just waltz their way to the finals. So much for that, Beefalo.

Last Edited: 3/9/2020 11:48:08 PM by GoCats105
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   Posted: 3/9/2020 11:52:40 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Unless we beat Akron they may just waltz their way to the finals. So much for that, Beefalo.


I mentioned this in the Akron thread, but with Fiami beating Beefalo - that semifinal game looks much more winnable.

I really think whomever wins the OU-Akron game is going to be playing on Saturday for the 'ship. (my money is still on Akron, but I have a better feeling now than maybe at any point this year aside from the first week)
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 7:08:44 AM 
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 8:53:36 AM 
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.

Last Edited: 3/10/2020 8:54:07 AM by FearLeon

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 8:56:21 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.



Wouldn't be surprised one bit to see a guy like Graves jump ship if he already finished his degree requirement. Especially with the year he had.
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Jeff McKinney
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 12:04:22 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.




What is it you didnt like about Whitesell?
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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 12:44:23 PM 
Wow. I wasn't expecting that Miami result.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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OUcats82
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 1:56:31 PM 
So glad to see Buffalo fall flat on their faces in the first round.

They puffed their chest so much for a few years and thought they were too good for the MAC. Not usually cheering for Miami but didn't hurt my feelings that they won last night, especially since the Cats picked their pocket last Friday.

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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:01:11 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.




What is it you didnt like about Whitesell?


+1. I'd like to know the line of thinking as well. Not that I disagree necessarily. That UB team has more talent than the record and this loss showed in my opinion.
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FearLeon
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/10/2020 7:48:07 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.




What is it you didnt like about Whitesell?


+1. I'd like to know the line of thinking as well. Not that I disagree necessarily. That UB team has more talent than the record and this loss showed in my opinion.


You go from a young proven commodity in Nate Oats to a much older Old School coach in Whitesell....age 62. On paper, it just didn't feel like it would mesh or work. Not sure if this is a good reason or not, I'm not against older coaches, but this one didn't smell right from the beginning.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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OUVan
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/11/2020 8:48:20 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Gallia Cat wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
What is . . .


Buffalo Sucks


I said it when he was hired and I値l say it again...Jim Whitesell was a terrible hire. UB took the easy way out with that hire and it will cost them moving forward. It already has.




What is it you didnt like about Whitesell?


+1. I'd like to know the line of thinking as well. Not that I disagree necessarily. That UB team has more talent than the record and this loss showed in my opinion.


You go from a young proven commodity in Nate Oats to a much older Old School coach in Whitesell....age 62. On paper, it just didn't feel like it would mesh or work. Not sure if this is a good reason or not, I'm not against older coaches, but this one didn't smell right from the beginning.


They returned a talented nucleus but they also lost a ton from the roster last year. Not easy replacing C.J. Massinberg (MAC POTY), Nick Perkins (1st Team All-MAC), Jeremy Harris (2nd Team All-MAC), Dontay Caruthers (All-MAC Defensive Team). That and this team didn't share the ball like last year's squad. It became Jayvon Graves' team and mirrored his personality. He was 2nd on the team in assists at 2.5/gm and that would have been 5th on the team last year.
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Tom Valentino
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 MAC Tournament Talk
   Posted: 3/11/2020 11:16:02 AM 
Did my annual MAC tourney preview podcast with Jason Arkley last night. Little different conversation this year, given current events, but we still talked lots of actual hoops, too.

Enjoy.

https://www.podfollow.com/thenailpodcast

Last Edited: 3/11/2020 11:16:13 AM by Tom Valentino

On Twitter: @1tomvalentino | TheNailPodcast.com

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