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I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,532 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:07:41 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Jason Carter had 2 pts and 4 rebs in 12 minutes last night in his Xavier debut. I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. I read somewhere he's coming off a minor back injury. That might have limited his minutes, just speculating. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,419 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:07:44 AM  I believe he is recovering from a back injury. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,784 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:22:42 AM  Speaking of Xavier, how many of you knew that the head coaching position at X is actually paid for out of an endowment, and the title of the head coach is the "Sedler Family men's head basketball coach". Interesting! Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,568 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:33:19 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Speaking of Xavier, how many of you knew that the head coaching position at X is actually paid for out of an endowment, and the title of the head coach is the "Sedler Family men's head basketball coach". Interesting! Yes, the Home City Ice family as I recall. I think Michigan has endowed some of their football coaching salaries. That's why these published salary things have to be taken with a grain of salt. UD may have been paying Archie Miller $1.2M but there were 4 supporters also paying him $250K each per year. Someone told me that Xavier actually contracts with the Sedler Family who then subcontracts the coach. I can't imagine that's true but those kind of arrangements could get to be interesting. Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,784 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:40:49 AM  Ted Thompson wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Speaking of Xavier, how many of you knew that the head coaching position at X is actually paid for out of an endowment, and the title of the head coach is the "Sedler Family men's head basketball coach". Interesting! Yes, the Home City Ice family as I recall. I think Michigan has endowed some of their football coaching salaries. That's why these published salary things have to be taken with a grain of salt. UD may have been paying Archie Miller $1.2M but there were 4 supporters also paying him $250K each per year. Someone told me that Xavier actually contracts with the Sedler Family who then subcontracts the coach. I can't imagine that's true but those kind of arrangements could get to be interesting. Article that I read awhile ago led me to belief that the salary comes from the Sedler Family Foundation and the coach is essentially their employee. Yes, Michigan is endowing coaching positions as well. I was unaware of the UD deal with Archie Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 10:56:56 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Jason Carter had 2 pts and 4 rebs in 12 minutes last night in his Xavier debut. I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. How is he playing this year? NCAA transfer rules are a joke. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,861 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 11:05:26 AM  Alan Swank wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Jason Carter had 2 pts and 4 rebs in 12 minutes last night in his Xavier debut. I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. How is he playing this year? NCAA transfer rules are a joke. He graduated from Ohio. No transfer rules joke here. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,302 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 11:10:07 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Alan Swank wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Jason Carter had 2 pts and 4 rebs in 12 minutes last night in his Xavier debut. I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. How is he playing this year? NCAA transfer rules are a joke. He graduated from Ohio. No transfer rules joke here. I wish Jason nothing but the best. Dude put in the work at OU and was a good teammate. It really was time for the guys who weren't feeling the Boals Bobcat Way to look elsewhere. I don't blame them. I am glad that Murrell, Preston, Darty, McMurray and Springs stayed. They seem to be enjoying their experience. I want people who want to be there. Good luck Jason, TK, Cowart and Gareri. Good luck Butler and Culver...thank you for time served. Don't forget to cheer us on when we make the NCAA Tourney under Boals. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 11:10:24 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Alan Swank wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Jason Carter had 2 pts and 4 rebs in 12 minutes last night in his Xavier debut. I didn't watch the game and don't know a lot about Xavier's roster, but three other Forwards scored in double figures and played more minutes. How is he playing this year? NCAA transfer rules are a joke. He graduated from Ohio. No transfer rules joke here. Fortunately almost anything can be shortened to “the NCAA is a joke” I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top 71 BOBCAT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,874 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 1:27:34 PM  The other transfer, T Kirk, didn't even play in their game last night. GO BOBCATS Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 1:30:09 PM  71 BOBCAT wrote: The other transfer, T Kirk, didn't even play in their game last night. GO BOBCATS He has to sit out this year. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,340 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 1:36:35 PM  71 BOBCAT wrote: The other transfer, T Kirk, didn't even play in their game last night. GO BOBCATS That's because he is being required to sit out a year. Agree with Alan, and The Optimist on the "NCAA is a joke". Transfer rules should be an all or nothing proposition. Either everyone is eligible immediately, or everyone has to have a sit out year. I personally lean towards a sit out year for all. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,861 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 1:50:20 PM  There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,159 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 2:08:08 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Speaking of Xavier, how many of you knew that the head coaching position at X is actually paid for out of an endowment, and the title of the head coach is the "Sedler Family men's head basketball coach". Interesting! I remember reading a number of years ago that Miami's head football coach was the automatic recipient of the Bo Schembechler Chair of Head Coaching. I would guess that's still in place, as the story said it was some kind of endowment. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,784 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 2:24:36 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Funny, none of these folks complained when Frank was taking in Graduate transfer Kickers and TE’s that could play. In fact those folks were welcomed and applauded. Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,114 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 2:32:11 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Funny, none of these folks complained when Frank was taking in Graduate transfer Kickers and TE’s that could play. In fact those folks were welcomed and applauded. It sure was nice having Ogbonda last night! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,063 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 3:12:04 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to. These two instances are about as cut and dry as it can get. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,340 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 4:35:10 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Funny, none of these folks complained when Frank was taking in Graduate transfer Kickers and TE’s that could play. In fact those folks were welcomed and applauded. Given that I barely, if ever, follow Frank's recruiting, I wouldn't fall into that category. It's for another thread, but my only comments in the Fball recruiting threads usually have to do with (chuckling) how that year's class is "the best one we've ever had". Back on topic: To me it's simple: You choose to leave on your own, you sit a year. If you're put in the middle of a coaching change (not of your choosing obviously), you don't sit a year. If you're a grad transfer, such as Jaaron Simmons, you still sit a year. You get to work on your grad degree and use basketball to have two degrees - bonus for you! Granted, it's just my opinion, but to me, there's nothing wrong with simply making the rule apply the same to everyone. Because the way the NCAA does it now is a complete joke. While I applaud Carter for being able to graduate early, I think the fact that TK has to sit, while Carter doesn't, is dumb. But it embodies everything the NCAA does - everything they do with these rules is wildly inconsistent. And for me, I'm never going to relent on the opinion that grad transfers should have a sit out year. If they're transferring for academics - i.e. the spirit of the rule to begin with, they'll get a year to work on that grad degree. You're all welcome to disagree and that's fine. The only area where I see appeals making sense are areas related to player injuries and said players asking for an additional year of eligibility. Ricardo Johnson, for example, would have been a great example of a player that I thought deserved that type of exception in an appeal. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,340 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 4:36:47 PM  GoCats105 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to. These two instances are about as cut and dry as it can get. In the context of the current rules, and how they are being applied to these two cases, they are. Back to Top Obc2 General User Member Since: 11/8/2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 596 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 7:57:11 PM  I saw first half. JC didn't practice much recently per announcers. They have a 4 star frosh big and 2 returning bigs. JC drew 2 fouls I saw. I think he's in the rotation more as he feels better. Looked decent. Playing more of a 3 from my observation. Back to Top longtiimelurker General User Member Since: 2/2/2017 Post Count: 587 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/6/2019 9:22:34 PM  OU_Country wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to. These two instances are about as cut and dry as it can get. In the context of the current rules, and how they are being applied to these two cases, they are. nahh. Grads are rewarded for kicking butt and getting their degree WHILE juggling academics. Guys like tk are not doing that. What was that line about majoring in eligibility? They are not much concerned about the gift they possess and how to use it to prepare for the rest of their life. They jus wanna hoop. Don care much bout classes. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,925 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/7/2019 12:24:51 AM  longtiimelurker wrote: nahh. Grads are rewarded for kicking butt and getting their degree WHILE juggling academics. Guys like tk are not doing that. What was that line about majoring in eligibility? They are not much concerned about the gift they possess and how to use it to prepare for the rest of their life. They jus wanna hoop. Don care much bout classes. Do you have any source that would indicate that TK was behind on classes? He was on campus for two years, of course he hadn't graduated yet. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,784 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/7/2019 1:50:51 AM  finnOhio wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Funny, none of these folks complained when Frank was taking in Graduate transfer Kickers and TE’s that could play. In fact those folks were welcomed and applauded. It sure was nice having Ogbonda last night! B-I-N-G-O, and Bingo was his name-O. So funny the mental gymnastics some can go through to justify what they like while vilifying what is the exact same thing! Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,784 Status: Offline     RE: In Other News    Posted: 11/7/2019 1:53:38 AM  longtiimelurker wrote: OU_Country wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: There are situations where the transfer rules/exceptions are maddening and worth scrutinizing, but I think you guys are off base here for this discsussion. Letting a player who obtains their degree transfer without waiting a year makes perfect sense. Carter got his degree in his 3 years here (1 redshirt), Kirk was only here 2 years and obviously did not obtain his degree and has to sit a year. Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to. These two instances are about as cut and dry as it can get. In the context of the current rules, and how they are being applied to these two cases, they are. nahh. Grads are rewarded for kicking butt and getting their degree WHILE juggling academics. Guys like tk are not doing that. What was that line about majoring in eligibility? They are not much concerned about the gift they possess and how to use it to prepare for the rest of their life. They jus wanna hoop. Don care much bout classes. And one of those guys had a GPA that was running the software version of a 2001 iTunes program. . Last Edited: 11/7/2019 1:59:50 AM by BillyTheCat Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 26 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 171 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 168 Guests 3 Registered Users:   El Gato Roberto, Mike Coleman, Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame There are no other users looking at this page.

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