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Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/23/2019 10:43:33 PM

6-10 Sylvester Ogbonda from Georgia Tech is transferring to Ohio and will be eligible this year (grad transfer).

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/23/2019 10:47:53 PM

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/24/2019 10:26:19 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlBh82TFn0Q

Sorry :)

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/26/2019 7:13:44 PM

Looks like this player has not played a bunch at GT. Hope he does well. From reports I have seen Boals is getting paid $600,000 plus this coming season. Doesn't shock me as I expected the new coach would be paid more than Saul. I guess the university has no budget problems when it comes to hiring new basketball coaches and the additional salary pool they have for assistants. I wish all the new staff well, but why does Ohio University pay more than any other MAC team when the Bobcats have not won a MAC regular season title since Larry Hunter was in charge? Does the 13,000 seat Convo equate to paying every new coach a big salary?

Last Edited: 5/26/2019 7:15:47 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/26/2019 7:53:02 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Call me crazy...but if he got big minutes at GA Tech....do you think he'd be looking to transfer to Ohio??? I would say 80% of transfers relate to guys like this who didn't get the PT at one school they thought they would get when then signed with them. Or they got minutes early and then saw the writing on the wall that somebody was taking his spot moving forward....see Preston>Kirk.

From what I understand, Sylvester had some injuries as well which put him behind others in the rotation. In reading quotes from Pastner, this kid did everything the right way when he was at GA Tech. I'm looking forward to seeing him play major minutes for Ohio.

In my opinion, Coach Boals has already earned his salary for this year. He inherited an absolute dumpster fire from Saul and somehow landed one of the best recruiting classes in years. As I've said numerous times, we all want to win next year, but you really can't judge Boals record wise until he gets into year 2 and 3.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 7:51:45 AM

Fear Leon,
I hope your right about the Boals recruits. As I have seen, most recruits that are still available at this time of year are left overs that were passed over during the early signing period & become marginal contributors as best.
I personally would have preferred JB 5 years ago rather than SP. Now we have our man and I can't wait to see his style of play come Nov.

GO BOBCATS

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 8:52:02 AM

71 Bobcat- JB five seasons ago would have been the preferred choice of many. Unfortunately, Ohio's AD doesn't operate like that as he wanted a guy with head coach experience.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 11:33:34 AM

In other news...

We landed on the moon!

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 11:50:03 AM

Valedictorian of his senior high school class.

https://ramblinwreck.com/roster/sylvester-ogbonda /

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 2:35:44 PM

Ohio won a MAC regular season title under Jim Christian...tied with Akron for first. Also, Buffalo and Akron have both surpassed Ohio in Coach salaries, though when Buffalo replaced Oats the salary dropped back.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 8:41:17 PM

Jeff M- I realize Christian tied for a MAC regular season title, but was the #2 seed that season as Ohio lost the tiebreaker that year. Ohio has not won an outright MAC title since Hunter was in charge. Also the Bulls new head coach is paid a base salary of $300,000 with $100,000 in extra compensation. Not sure about incentives, but Boals is making $200,000 more than that. Just wondering why Ohio's AD insists on paying prime money? It is not like Ohio has dominated the conference the past few years.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/27/2019 10:48:14 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Boals would not take less than Saul. Buffalo gave an assistant coach a prove it raise, we hired an established coach. I remember reading in past threads about how the new president and the AD were not interested in Sports. Those posts seem to be inaccurate Schaus seems to be pretty engaged and knowledgeable. I love seeing him at the Caravans and the president is signing off. Buffalo�s situation is totally different. Their new coach has a great roster returning and a lower buyout so if he wins he can and will leave. If Boals were to win and leave, we would have a buyout that would cover a new coaches salary for almost the next two years. I like his deal.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/28/2019 1:56:40 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

The real question is - does anybody care? Well they might, but should they? Regular season championships for a mid-major in basketball are akin to looking at RBI to evaluate hitters in baseball. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean or tell you anything.

Or, citing regular season MAC championships is sorta like saying you won your office fantasy league. Cool story bro. Nobody cares. All it gets you is the #1 seed in the tournament (which is nice, but by itself is meaningless in a 1-bid league).

Just win in Cleveland baby. #Dancing. #Dollabillz. #Exposure.

We've done that plenty of times since Hunter - though sadly not with Saul. Hopefully Boals rights the ship and I have full confidence he will. He's off to a great start.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/28/2019 7:01:23 AM

"The real question is - does anybody care? Well they might, but should they? Regular season championships for a mid-major in basketball are akin to looking at RBI to evaluate hitters in baseball. It's nice, but it doesn't really mean or tell you anything."

I agree GraffZ. The regular season for the MAC is not that important, but try telling that to season ticket holders who have watched prices rise the last few years. Ohio has won the league tourney with a losing conference record. The goal of MAC teams should be to stay healthy during the regular season and get hot for three games in March.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/28/2019 8:01:07 AM

It only means nothing to people who only value the NCAA berth. Different strokes for different folks, but to me, the regular season title shows that you were a consistently good/great team. Winning in Cleveland can just show you got hot for a week at the right time. Not to get too sidetracked, but I'd personally like to see the regular season titles get more credit in terms of the NCAA berth. Putting all the emphasis on the conference tourney does devalue the regular season a lot for mid major teams. It can help you in seeding, getting byes and such, but that's it. I'd personally prefer to see the team that was the best in the conference all year be rewarded, but that won't happen at our level. And if anyone else was there for the Sweet 16 celebration in the Convo, Groce himself said it was a big regret that he didn't get a regular season banner hung in those rafters. It means something.

End tangent.

Last Edited: 5/28/2019 8:02:12 AM by 100%Cat

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/28/2019 7:58:49 PM

100%Cat- You are 100% correct as regular season titles should be more important than getting hot for three games in Cleveland. Unfortunately, the league office doesn't want that. For my money the regular season MAC champion over a period of 18 games should be the representative to the NCAA tournament.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/28/2019 10:51:38 PM

I don't necessarily disagree with you guys. But it's not reality.

It's a question of "fair" vs. "excitement". Giving the NCAA bid to the regular season champ would be "fair" because, literally by definition, the best team would get in. The problem is, by the end of January 1/2 to 1/3 of the league is out of the race and heading into late February/early March the standings could already be wrapped up leaving absolutely zero excitement/reason to play. But it is "fair".

Conference tournaments on the other hand are nothing BUT excitement. Any team, any day, any year can make their dream come true. Upsets. Chaos. Survive and advance. It's exciting. It's must see TV. Must see TV means $$$. $$$ means it's here to stay.

The only way to have it both ways is to elevate the league to the point where we start getting an at-large bid. That way MAYBE both the regular season champ and the tournament champ, if not the same, can both go dancing.

Let's hope Coach Boals is taking step 1 this year - starting with this recruiting class - to putting us on that trajectory. We shall see.

Last Edited: 5/28/2019 10:53:15 PM by GraffZ06

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 7:56:36 AM

GraffZ06 wrote:

Simple,

regular season title = Automatic Bid
conference tournament = Automatic Bid
fill in from there.

This would greatly increase the interest and visibility in mid-major basketball, as leagues such as ours would be able (most years) to get that 2nd team into the dance, and would push out the 18-17 win (conference losing record) from the tournament.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 8:29:58 AM

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GraffZ06 wrote:

I've been advocating this for years. If the team is the same (conference champ and regular season champ, then so be it). Any idea how many one bid conferences had different champs last year?

Last Edited: 5/29/2019 8:31:13 AM by Alan Swank

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 8:38:36 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

GraffZ06 wrote:

It's an interesting concept and one I'd wholly support, but the question is - in terms of interest/eyeballs/viewership for the NCAA tournament - which boils down to $$$, would Johnny Q. Public rather watch a 23-25 win mid-major from the MAC/A10/CUSA/Mtn West/SoCon etc. or would they rather watch a 17-19 win team from the P5? My gut reaction is, whether we want to believe it or not, the majority of the population sees "Arkansas" and goes - oh ok I'll watch that game because I know that school. You put on Mercer or Quinnipiac and they go....who? Unless the Stony Brook's of the world are playing AGAINST a P5 team. Then maybe they'd tune it (and of course root for the upset).

So maybe the solution is, always pair up the mid-major auto bids against P5 schools in the tourney draw to maximize the "watchability" factor. I dunno. I just think the more mids the NCAA puts in, the higher the probability two mids play each other - and that would be a nightmare ratings scenario for the NCAA.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 9:24:13 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

GraffZ06 wrote:

I've been advocating this for years. If the team is the same (conference champ and regular season champ, then so be it). Any idea how many one bid conferences had different champs last year?

Team Conference

Campbell Big South

Harvard Ivy League

Hofstra Colonial

Lipscomb Atlantic Sun

Loyola–Chicago Missouri Valley

Norfolk State MEAC

Saint Francis (PA) Northeast

Sam Houston State Southland

South Dakota State Summit

Wright State Horizon

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 10:14:27 AM

So in this scenario, St. John's (21-12), Arizona State (22-10), Temple (23-9), Belmont (26-5), Ohio State (19-14), Seton Hall (20-12), Iowa (22-11), Florida (19-15), Minnesota (21-13) plus one of the No. 9 seeds were the last 10 teams in this past year. Of those teams, Belmont was a regular season conference champ, so they would be in, meaning two of the nine seeds would have been out. The only way this rule would ever have a chance is if the tournament was expanded.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 10:22:32 AM

Here's a (probably) even dumber thought. What about changing the way the conference tournament is structured and cut lower end teams from it all together? It would be a bit more like the way the MAC does baseball, say only the top 6 make the MAC tournament. 1 and 2 seeds get a bye to the semifinal, 3-6 and 4-5 play each other in what amounts to the quarterfinals for the right to play 1 and 2 in the semis. You'd add some relevance to the regular season and still give several teams a chance. A chance that they have to EARN. If you did that with last year's MAC it would be something like:

Byes to semifinal

1 seed: Buffalo
2 seed: Toledo

Quarterfinal matchups

3 Bowling Green vs Eastern Mich
4 Kent St vs Central Mich

I realize teams that don't make the top 6 would cry "we never had a chance," but in my humble opinion you had 18 conference games worth of chances to prove you belong in the field in Cleveland.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 10:38:26 AM

As a Bobcats and MAC fan, I too, of course, would like to see both the regular season MAC champ and tourney champ get into the NCAA tournament. Perhaps there is a solution (if they want one ; ) ) for this being an �across the board� practice/rule of the NCAA. Maybe they could consider something similar to this.

I believe there are 34 D1 Men�s basketball conferences. At the end of the regular season, if the conference is rated in the top half (17), third (11), etc., of the country, that conference automatically has their regular season champ included. If it ends up being the same team winning their tourney, that may be their lone representative. This could also be done on an individual team rating basis (top 170, 115?) although I personally would like the conference method. It might also offer some protection to the NCAA from some truly bad team(s) getting in. Lastly, I think this would offer a level of discretion between the mid-majors and low majors which I think should exist and doesn�t.

I�m sure there would be questions about how this might affect scheduling from both the mid-major and �P5� perspective.

Probably some holes in this idea that I�m not thinking of but I think it would be better than what we have now.

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RE: Georgia Tech's Sylvester Ogbonda to Ohio

Posted: 5/29/2019 11:03:59 AM

CatsUp wrote:

From what I've read,when the NCAA took over the N.I.T.,giving regular season/non tournament conference champs an automatic bid to the N.I.T. was a way to "throw a bone" to one bid conferences and try to generate more interest in the N.I.T.

Don't know if the NCAA is interested in messing with that model.

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