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Author Message brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,809 Status: Offline     If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 2:32:42 PM  According to a professor at Indiana University-Purdue University Columbus (IN), it would be approximately $11,510,000. That's the amount the prof says it would take to buy/sell on the open market. He used a formula that took several factors into account. I believe he ranked Akron as the most valuable MAC program and I think we were third. The most valuable overall was UK at $334 million. Ohio St was 12th at $124.7 million. Dayton was 18th at $100 million. All other programs after that were under $100 mil. Info from the Wall St. Journal. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,791 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 2:40:58 PM  If it took the real estate into account, would imagine ours is a bit higher due to apartment usage. Nonetheless, not surprised about us being 3rd. The part that shocks me is I figured Toledo would be highest value due to practice court, weight room, renovated facilities and the works along with support financially year over year. Back to Top brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,809 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 3:07:36 PM  you may be right B2B, I don't trust some of my notes...I will vouch for the Ohio, OSU and Dayton stats.. Last Edited: 4/8/2019 3:08:24 PM by brucecuth Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,861 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 3:53:39 PM  Is this taking into account that I don't have to play my players at all? Or is it valuing the scholarships as their payment? Like said above, including the facility as ownership would change the numbers drastically. Given how many different uses the Convo has, I don't think it would be fair to include it as an asset to the Mens basketball program. And if the program doesn't own it, does it take into account renting the facilities? If I have to record scholarships as an expense and don't own the facilities, I would have a tough time paying very much at all. Without much of a TV contract, I don't see a lot of black numbers. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,299 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 4:45:05 PM  Wait a minute. We're actually having a discussion based on a theory by a professor at the Columbus, Indiana campus of IU-PU? And the theory was actually reported in the WSJ? Welcome to Bizarro World. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top cbus cat fan General User Member Since: 12/2/2011 Post Count: 1,169 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 4:47:10 PM  This seems so arbitrary to me. For example at one time Tesla's stock price was almost $400 a share, now it is around $275 a share. Yet, the company has never made a dime, it has billions in investment money being poured into it with the hopes that electric cars will one day be the norm. Hope is the operative word here. Our beloved basketball team, sports program in general, and MAC athletics in particular operate on a variety of subsidies. Even the vaunted school up north only has two athletic programs that make money. They are able to subsidize a variety of sports because of football and basketball, again with football being the operative word. Now some might say, but what about all of the equipment and the facilities we have? Well, who else would ever use it? Our beloved Alma mater is located in a very rural area. You could make the same case for Tesla, they have quite the facilities in California and Nevada, but who is going to use it if electric cars don't catch on and they need to actually make a profit instead of operating on other peoples investment money and government subsidies. Most of us here are the 1% who actually attended games when we went to school in Athens. It doesn't end there, we even come back when we can to watch various sporting events. Honestly, think of other MAC grads you know who are friends, work colleagues, neighbors etc. How many of them return to their Alma mater? I can't think of a single one and I have a neighbor who actually played a varsity sport at Miami. Last Edited: 4/8/2019 4:52:13 PM by cbus cat fan Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 5:33:00 PM  Hasnt this been done before? Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/8/2019 7:43:42 PM  Pataskala wrote: Wait a minute. We're actually having a discussion based on a theory by a professor at the Columbus, Indiana campus of IU-PU? And the theory was actually reported in the WSJ? Welcome to Bizarro World. I we wonder why higher ed costs so much? Useless, needless "research." Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,995 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/9/2019 12:37:31 AM  Fitty bucks. Oh, alright fine. We have some buzz with a new basketball coach so capitalize on the interest. A cool hundo it is. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 715 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/9/2019 12:41:51 AM  Priceless! We are the Rembrandt of College Basketball!! Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,688 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/9/2019 4:41:16 PM  cbus cat fan wrote: This seems so arbitrary to me. For example at one time Tesla's stock price was almost $400 a share, now it is around $275 a share. Yet, the company has never made a dime, it has billions in investment money being poured into it with the hopes that electric cars will one day be the norm. Hope is the operative word here. Our beloved basketball team, sports program in general, and MAC athletics in particular operate on a variety of subsidies. Even the vaunted school up north only has two athletic programs that make money. They are able to subsidize a variety of sports because of football and basketball, again with football being the operative word. Now some might say, but what about all of the equipment and the facilities we have? Well, who else would ever use it? Our beloved Alma mater is located in a very rural area. You could make the same case for Tesla, they have quite the facilities in California and Nevada, but who is going to use it if electric cars don't catch on and they need to actually make a profit instead of operating on other peoples investment money and government subsidies. Most of us here are the 1% who actually attended games when we went to school in Athens. It doesn't end there, we even come back when we can to watch various sporting events. Honestly, think of other MAC grads you know who are friends, work colleagues, neighbors etc. How many of them return to their Alma mater? I can't think of a single one and I have a neighbor who actually played a varsity sport at Miami. Very true. I saw the WSJ article and they've been doing a ranking/valuation for a few years now. Louisville used to be number 1. Given our revenue, even accounting for the unpaid labor, we are worth no where near 11M. I looked at 2018 attendance figures and we averaged about 5k per game. The tickets are about 3 bucks a head if you buy a package. I don't know how many are ponying up for the 1000 dollar seats , but it can't be that many. We lose money every year. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,688 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/9/2019 4:42:26 PM  I know you're making a joke, but it's likely true! Fifty bucks is accurate. Last Edited: 4/9/2019 4:43:03 PM by giacomo Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,852 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/10/2019 9:11:08 AM  Pataskala wrote: Wait a minute. We're actually having a discussion based on a theory by a professor at the Columbus, Indiana campus of IU-PU? And the theory was actually reported in the WSJ? Welcome to Bizarro World. I also totally missed that IUPUFW is now just PUFW until I saw a score on ESPN during conference tourney time. Guess it happened about 2 years ago?! https://www.jconline.com/story/news/college/2017/04/21/go... / Ohio-The State University Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,299 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/10/2019 12:01:16 PM  OUcats82 wrote: Pataskala wrote: Wait a minute. We're actually having a discussion based on a theory by a professor at the Columbus, Indiana campus of IU-PU? And the theory was actually reported in the WSJ? Welcome to Bizarro World. I also totally missed that IUPUFW is now just PUFW until I saw a score on ESPN during conference tourney time. Guess it happened about 2 years ago?! https://www.jconline.com/story/news/college/2017/04/21/go... / IPFW sounded like a urinary tract disorder anyway. Of course, PU Fort Wayne isn't all that appealing, either. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,159 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/10/2019 2:45:54 PM  I know how many locals pronounce IUPUI -- "EwwiePewie" Does anyone know how IUPUFW would be pronounced? It boggle my mind to try and contemplate the possibilities. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,408 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/10/2019 10:52:01 PM  Whatever the amount is that you put your money where your mouth is. Whatever BBall season tickets total price you pay, and the Bobcat Club level you contribute (% of Bobcat Club contribution that you consider as allocated to secure the seat licenses required for the seats you buy for BBall). RS Bobcat Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: If you could put a $ value on the Bobcat basketball program.    Posted: 4/12/2019 8:53:14 PM  $1804 million I've seen crazier things happen. 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