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  Message Not Read  Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 12:13:55 PM 
Thursday, 7:00, in the Roundhouse.

Our mutual opponents:

Central Mich:
Western Kentucky: L 108-90 (A)
OHIO: L 88-70 (H); W 78-75 (A)

Ball St:
WKU: L 86-83 (H)
OHIO: W 90-75 (A)

Miami:
WKU: W 67-63 (A)
OHIO: L 67-61 (H); W 70-66 (A); W 74-48 (N)

Middle Tenn:
WKU: L 81-69 (A); W 67-56 (H)
OHIO: W 59-57 (H)

If we win, we’ll play the winner of the WVU/Northwestern game being played in Morgantown. Cite TBD.

Way past time for the students to show up. It doesn't appear the Athletic Dept. has put any effort into getting a student turnout.

And as someone inquired on a previous thread, yes, we are the last MAC team, men or women, still in tourney play.

It takes 4 more wins for the title. The men were there in the final in 1941 when the NIT was on par with the NCAA. Ohio, unlike other schools, has never truly recognized that feat, other than a side banner saying we were NIT runner-ups. And this was the only time, I believe, in the NCAA or NIT, that a player on the losing team won the MVP. Frank Baumholtz, our only first team All American.

Go OHIO





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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 12:24:22 PM 
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 1:47:11 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?


I'd be (pleasantly) shocked.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 1:50:39 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?


Have you ever seen the effects free food can have on college kids?

Heck I was a student here when the lines for a free t-shirt outside the Oasis were dozens deep for hours. All you had to do was sign up for a credit card. I mean why not?

Last Edited: 3/25/2019 1:51:50 PM by 100%Cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 2:24:46 PM 
Free food is not the draw it used to be. Especially if they have to walk all the way to the Convo.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 3:25:26 PM 
I was on campus for the game last Thursday, and there was absolutely zero marketing/promotion on campus for their first round game. No signs outside of the Convo, no signs around campus about a game... nothing. The Athletic Dept. doesn't care about this team, and it shows.

I hope the crowd is decent, I'd love to see this team move on to the next round and beyond.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 4:07:28 PM 
stub wrote:

It takes 3 more wins for the title.


Doesn't it take 4 more wins for the title?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 4:14:08 PM 
sjackson110 wrote:
I was on campus for the game last Thursday, and there was absolutely zero marketing/promotion on campus for their first round game. No signs outside of the Convo, no signs around campus about a game... nothing. The Athletic Dept. doesn't care about this team, and it shows.

I hope the crowd is decent, I'd love to see this team move on to the next round and beyond.


They did put together an event before the game Sunday at the OU Inn. It was nice. Good free food. I ended up getting free tickets too. I got a couple emails about it beforehand. I think they did things to try to get people to show up, but maybe they could do more to try to get students there.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 4:18:17 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
stub wrote:

It takes 3 more wins for the title.


Doesn't it take 4 more wins for the title?


Yes, it's 64 teams, so six wins to take it all.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 6:50:31 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
stub wrote:

It takes 3 more wins for the title.


Doesn't it take 4 more wins for the title?


Yes it would take six.

You know what they say: there are three types of people in the world; those who can count and those who can't.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 6:56:10 PM 
The kids can't even take a five minute walk to the convo .. let alone take an afternoon / evening to travel to Morgantown. I am an optimist, yet unless their are major incentives I don't see it happening unfortunately.. one game at a time
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 8:27:58 PM 
sjackson110 wrote:
The Athletic Dept. doesn't care about this team, and it shows.



I think if the AD didn't care, we'd be playing on the road.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/25/2019 9:21:14 PM 
mcbin wrote:
sjackson110 wrote:
The Athletic Dept. doesn't care about this team, and it shows.



I think if the AD didn't care, we'd be playing on the road.



Very true.
As the home team has to bid on and pay for home games.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/26/2019 12:46:08 PM 
While we wait for WNIT challenge #3 for the ladies...

Congrats are in order for The Post's Anthony Poisal. Anthony finished 6th in the Hearst Sports Writing awards and earned a certificate of merit.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/26/2019 1:11:52 PM 
Hey I got an email about reduced price tickets for faculty/staff. We have EFFORT!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 7:32:57 AM 
stub wrote:

The men were there in the final in 1941 when the NIT was on par with the NCAA. Ohio, unlike other schools, has never truly recognized that feat, other than a side banner saying we were NIT runner-ups. And this was the only time, I believe, in the NCAA or NIT, that a player on the losing team won the MVP. Frank Baumholtz, our only first team All American.

Go OHIO


Actually,in 1941,the NIT, was THE tournament.

The NCAA tournament was an after thought.

Its before my time,but my dad said that when the NIT was the top tournament,some schools skipped the NCAA's to play in the NIT.

It wasn't until the NCAA started expanding the field and making participation
mandatory,if you got selected,that the NIT lost its luster.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 9:30:35 AM 
100%Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?


Have you ever seen the effects free food can have on college kids?

Heck I was a student here when the lines for a free t-shirt outside the Oasis were dozens deep for hours. All you had to do was sign up for a credit card. I mean why not?



You said "The Oasis". I smiled. We're both apparently old.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 10:00:42 AM 
rpbobcat, stub,etal
That NIT Bobcat team had some famous Bobcats in addition to Frankie Baumholtz...J.Snyder, B.Wren, P.Lalich, F.Miller, D.Trautwein to name a few.
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   Posted: 3/27/2019 10:42:15 AM 
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Bobcat Bash: WNIT Round of 16
Convocation Center
95 Richland Ave.
Athens, OH 45701

March 28 • 5:30 - 7 p.m.

Stand Up and Cheer for the OHIO Women's Basketball Team prior to its WNIT Round of 16 matchup with Western Kentucky! We will gather in the event space formerly known as the Trainer's Hall of Fame, located along the concourse of the Convocation Center beginning at 5:30 p.m. All Bobcats and friends are invited to enjoy light food and beverages and an appearance from head coach Bob Boldon.

There is no cost to attend, though we do require an RSVP so that we have an accurate count for gameday. RSVPs will be accepted until noon on March 28. Also, please note that you must have a game ticket to gain access to the Convocation Center for the Bobcat Bash or for the WNIT game.


RSVP here!
All questions can be directed to Ryan Boyd in the Alumni Association at boydr3@ohio.edu .
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 3:19:35 PM 
Kinggeorge4 wrote:
Free food is not the draw it used to be. Especially if they have to walk all the way to the Convo.


By the time you walk all the way to the Convo, you’ve burned more calories than you’d be getting for free.

Plus all the jumping and cheering at the game.

Could really kill students gainz


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 3:56:34 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
stub wrote:

The men were there in the final in 1941 when the NIT was on par with the NCAA. Ohio, unlike other schools, has never truly recognized that feat, other than a side banner saying we were NIT runner-ups. And this was the only time, I believe, in the NCAA or NIT, that a player on the losing team won the MVP. Frank Baumholtz, our only first team All American.

Go OHIO


Actually,in 1941,the NIT, was THE tournament.

The NCAA tournament was an after thought.

Its before my time,but my dad said that when the NIT was the top tournament,some schools skipped the NCAA's to play in the NIT.

It wasn't until the NCAA started expanding the field and making participation
mandatory,if you got selected,that the NIT lost its luster.



I’ve researched this in the past, and here’s some thoughts I’ve had on this, along with some excerpts from Wikipedia:

Agree, rpbobcat, in 1941, the NIT Tournament was arguably the most prestigious collegiate basketball championship in its day, and older than the NCAA.

The post-season NIT, started in 1938, pre-dates the NCAA Tournament by one year and is second in age only to the NAIA Tournament, which was founded by James Naismith in 1937. Originally all of the teams qualifying for the tournament were invited to New York City, and all games were played at Madison Square Garden.
The men's tournament originally consisted of only 6 teams, which later expanded to 8 teams in 1941, Ohio’s year in the tourney, and continually grew in numbers over the years.
In the tournaments' early years, the NIT often drew some of the nation's best collegiate basketball teams for several reasons. First, there was limited national media coverage of college basketball, therefore playing in "The Big Apple" provided tremendous media exposure for the team and players. This facilitated coaches exposure to the rich recruiting territory of New York City and allowed for players hoping for a shot to play professional ball, an opportunity to play before scouts in the largely east coast dominated league. Additionally, the NCAA was originally a tournament mostly among conference winners.
During the NIT's first 15 years or so, the winners were hailed as National Champions by some, not all, and dispute surrounded which tournament champion was superior.

2016 marked the 75th year since Ohio played for the national championship. I made the case back then to the athletic department (actually a year earlier so they'd have time to prepare), that this achievement needed to be commemorated. They passed.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 4:10:02 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
100%Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?


Have you ever seen the effects free food can have on college kids?

Heck I was a student here when the lines for a free t-shirt outside the Oasis were dozens deep for hours. All you had to do was sign up for a credit card. I mean why not?



You said "The Oasis". I smiled. We're both apparently old.



The Oasis was a dry cleaners when I started. That's old.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/27/2019 5:00:21 PM 
David E Brightbill wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
100%Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
Not that athletics shouldn't try, but does anyone think a significant cluster of students is going to come to a women's basketball secondary tournament against another mid-major?


Have you ever seen the effects free food can have on college kids?

Heck I was a student here when the lines for a free t-shirt outside the Oasis were dozens deep for hours. All you had to do was sign up for a credit card. I mean why not?



You said "The Oasis". I smiled. We're both apparently old.



The Oasis was a dry cleaners when I started. That's old.



As hard as it is to find dependable dry cleaners in rural areas anymore, just the mention of ANY dry cleaning business seems like an ancient reference. My wife and I are tired of having to schlep our suits and coats 35 miles to get them dry cleaned.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/28/2019 6:56:09 AM 
If the Bobcats win tonight it looks like the next opponent would be Northwestern. The Wildcats have been road warriors during their run to the final 8.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Women's NIT Sweet 16 Round Thread: Western Kentucky
   Posted: 3/28/2019 8:38:52 AM 
stub wrote:
Thursday, 7:00, in the Roundhouse.

Our mutual opponents:

Central Mich:
Western Kentucky: L 108-90 (A)
OHIO: L 88-70 (H); W 78-75 (A)

Ball St:
WKU: L 86-83 (H)
OHIO: W 90-75 (A)

Miami:
WKU: W 67-63 (A)
OHIO: L 67-61 (H); W 70-66 (A); W 74-48 (N)

Middle Tenn:
WKU: L 81-69 (A); W 67-56 (H)
OHIO: W 59-57 (H)

If we win, we’ll play the winner of the WVU/Northwestern game being played in Morgantown. Cite TBD.

Way past time for the students to show up. It doesn't appear the Athletic Dept. has put any effort into getting a student turnout.

And as someone inquired on a previous thread, yes, we are the last MAC team, men or women, still in tourney play.

It takes 4 more wins for the title. The men were there in the final in 1941 when the NIT was on par with the NCAA. Ohio, unlike other schools, has never truly recognized that feat, other than a side banner saying we were NIT runner-ups. And this was the only time, I believe, in the NCAA or NIT, that a player on the losing team won the MVP. Frank Baumholtz, our only first team All American.

Go OHIO







The winner of tonight's game will play @ Northwestern on Saturday evening, 6 pm CT tipoff.
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