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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/7/2024 7:26:19 PM 

Saw this the other day and

https://bracketologists.com/conferences /
 
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Jeff McKinney
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 11:53:02 AM 
That's just sad. Never thought I'd see the MAC as #25.
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spongeBOB CATpants
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 12:00:46 PM 
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 12:41:59 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.


10 to 14. In 2019 the conference RPI was 9 and in 2021 the NET was 15.

Last Edited: 1/8/2024 12:47:12 PM by Alan Swank
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Andrew Ruck
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   Posted: 1/8/2024 12:59:20 PM 
My stomach turned looking at this. We have to stop the bleeding...I am not OK with being in the bottom half let alone bottom 3rd.

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spongeBOB CATpants
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   Posted: 1/8/2024 2:20:25 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.


10 to 14. In 2019 the conference RPI was 9 and in 2021 the NET was 15.


Wow that is quite a drop off. Will conference play move the needle at all or does that potentially hurt the rankings?
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GraffZ06
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 2:53:55 PM 
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.


10 to 14. In 2019 the conference RPI was 9 and in 2021 the NET was 15.


Wow that is quite a drop off. Will conference play move the needle at all or does that potentially hurt the rankings?


Very hard to move much as a conference once conference play starts since every conference will go exactly 500 as a whole and good plays good but bad plays bad.

This hopefully puts into perspective my comments saying we aren't good this year but we'll still probably be around or slightly above 500 in conference because the league as a whole is terrible.

Money talks, or in the case of MAC basketball, walks.

You want to pay for a backup middle linebacker or a new power forward? We can't afford both until our endowment for sports grows by multiple 0's or Athens magically generates some serious marketing revenue (TV, radio, businesses etc).

The Horizon is in a much better situation long-term than the MAC. They have Cincinnati (NKU), Dayton (WSU), Cleveland, Detroit (Oakland, UDM), Milwaukee, Green Bay, Pittsburgh (Bobby Mo) and Indianapolis (IUPUI) all as metro areas in the league. That doesn't count Ft Wayne and Youngstown. The available economy in the Horizon obliterates the rural towns of the MAC. And they don't have to worry about funding football.

Last Edited: 1/8/2024 2:56:09 PM by GraffZ06
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TWT
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   Posted: 1/8/2024 6:05:21 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
That's just sad. Never thought I'd see the MAC as #25.


It's #25 but its not far below #15.

#15 197.82
#20 217.00
#25 233.75

Once you get up to the high mid majors the separation is a lot more.

#7 104.64
#8 123.93
#9 140.83
#10 146.71

The good news is though Ohio down this year they'll probably make it to Cleveland and have legit chance to win it. That would be something.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 6:17:06 PM 
Check out the Ivy at number 11 and then look at some of the teams they've played. Yale has played Kansas, Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Rhode Island, and Vermont. I'd take that non conference schedule any day of the week.
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M.D.W.S.T
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   Posted: 1/8/2024 7:02:05 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Check out the Ivy at number 11 and then look at some of the teams they've played. Yale has played Kansas, Gonzaga, Loyola Marymount, Rhode Island, and Vermont. I'd take that non conference schedule any day of the week.


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bobcatsquared
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/8/2024 7:16:25 PM 
Swank's old buddy James Jones is the head coach at Yale.

Alan, do you think he's ready to return to Athens? I'd have to doubt it since he's been in New Haven for over 2 decades with a good amount of success.

Last Edited: 1/8/2024 7:16:47 PM by bobcatsquared
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 1/8/2024 9:42:47 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Swank's old buddy James Jones is the head coach at Yale.

Alan, do you think he's ready to return to Athens? I'd have to doubt it since he's been in New Haven for over 2 decades with a good amount of success.


I don't think so. We've talked about it through the years but with 5 Ivy championships (or tied for) in the last 9 years, he's pretty happy. 18 more wins and he's at 400 for his career. He was a great neighbor when he lived here in Athens in the late 90s.
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OU_Country
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   Posted: 1/10/2024 8:18:36 PM 
GraffZ06 wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.


10 to 14. In 2019 the conference RPI was 9 and in 2021 the NET was 15.


Wow that is quite a drop off. Will conference play move the needle at all or does that potentially hurt the rankings?


Very hard to move much as a conference once conference play starts since every conference will go exactly 500 as a whole and good plays good but bad plays bad.

This hopefully puts into perspective my comments saying we aren't good this year but we'll still probably be around or slightly above 500 in conference because the league as a whole is terrible.

Money talks, or in the case of MAC basketball, walks.

You want to pay for a backup middle linebacker or a new power forward? We can't afford both until our endowment for sports grows by multiple 0's or Athens magically generates some serious marketing revenue (TV, radio, businesses etc).

The Horizon is in a much better situation long-term than the MAC. They have Cincinnati (NKU), Dayton (WSU), Cleveland, Detroit (Oakland, UDM), Milwaukee, Green Bay, Pittsburgh (Bobby Mo) and Indianapolis (IUPUI) all as metro areas in the league. That doesn't count Ft Wayne and Youngstown. The available economy in the Horizon obliterates the rural towns of the MAC. And they don't have to worry about funding football.


This brings up an age old question that, I'm curious to think about/wonder about: What happens in 2024 and beyond if the MAC isn't D1 in football? I only say this as it relates to our new friend NIL and the beloved Transfer portal. Seems to me that it might just change how we've all looked at things prior to this. Also, it seems to me that a landscape shift is underway, and perhaps the MAC, and other similar conferences might be best served to re-evaluate D1 football status and whether it is financially sensible or not.

I'm not saying they should move to FCS, but I also don't know any of the financials that come into play when thinking about or discussing it.
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Urban Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: NET rankings by conference
   Posted: 1/10/2024 9:00:38 PM 
So much for getting a second bid.

When is the NCAA going to stop guaranteeing bids to weaker conferences?

Last Edited: 1/10/2024 9:03:26 PM by Urban Bobcat

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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 1/13/2024 11:42:04 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
GraffZ06 wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:
Where does the MAC typically land in these rankings? Surprising to see the MAC ranked lower than the Horizon.


10 to 14. In 2019 the conference RPI was 9 and in 2021 the NET was 15.


Wow that is quite a drop off. Will conference play move the needle at all or does that potentially hurt the rankings?


Very hard to move much as a conference once conference play starts since every conference will go exactly 500 as a whole and good plays good but bad plays bad.

This hopefully puts into perspective my comments saying we aren't good this year but we'll still probably be around or slightly above 500 in conference because the league as a whole is terrible.

Money talks, or in the case of MAC basketball, walks.

You want to pay for a backup middle linebacker or a new power forward? We can't afford both until our endowment for sports grows by multiple 0's or Athens magically generates some serious marketing revenue (TV, radio, businesses etc).

The Horizon is in a much better situation long-term than the MAC. They have Cincinnati (NKU), Dayton (WSU), Cleveland, Detroit (Oakland, UDM), Milwaukee, Green Bay, Pittsburgh (Bobby Mo) and Indianapolis (IUPUI) all as metro areas in the league. That doesn't count Ft Wayne and Youngstown. The available economy in the Horizon obliterates the rural towns of the MAC. And they don't have to worry about funding football.


This brings up an age old question that, I'm curious to think about/wonder about: What happens in 2024 and beyond if the MAC isn't D1 in football? I only say this as it relates to our new friend NIL and the beloved Transfer portal. Seems to me that it might just change how we've all looked at things prior to this. Also, it seems to me that a landscape shift is underway, and perhaps the MAC, and other similar conferences might be best served to re-evaluate D1 football status and whether it is financially sensible or not.

I'm not saying they should move to FCS, but I also don't know any of the financials that come into play when thinking about or discussing it.


FCS in football would have no bearing on basketball status.
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