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TheBobcatBandit
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   Posted: 10/29/2023 2:51:16 PM 
Thought would be a good idea to start a thread brainstorming nil opportunities for our student athletes to make money. If you have a good sponsorship idea post it below. This would be a good project for business school students to work with athletes on. Working as a team to learn hands on and make money.

Could even have other schools work on it besides business. Have art students make the video or art for the ad. Music students make the music. Engineers make some new product that can be advertised. Nature students could make some ad to visit parks or info ad on simple ways how to help environment. Business students work on finances or marketing or the deal. Could even do ads for bands or something at bars or party’s.

Don’t have any great ideas myself but I’ll start with canoe rentals at shrouds run.
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   Posted: 10/29/2023 6:02:59 PM 
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   Posted: 10/29/2023 7:41:59 PM 
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.
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   Posted: 10/29/2023 9:34:14 PM 
Quidel has a major plant in Athens, and a lot of R&D is done here. Among their major products are rapid diagnostic tests for various infectious diseases, including Covid-19. These are not at-home tests, but ones that require the use of their propriety machines, which thanks to Covid-19 has a greatly expanded user base in hospitals and clinics all over the nation. They were the among the first to get an emergency authorization for their rapid Covid-19 test, and that helped them sell many more of their machines.

Since their advertising is not aimed at the general public, but hospital and clinic executives and doctors, they could feature some OHIO athletes proclaiming the value of rapid diagnostic tests. For a football-related one, perhaps a line like this:

"In my sport as a running back it's very important to be fast and make accurate cuts. This gives my team the winning edge. Quidel understands the need for speed and accuracy also. Their rapid diagnostic kits for infectious diseases will give your hospital or clinic the accuracy and speed that'll make them a winner with your patients."

This is a rough draft that would need a lot of further editing, but I would think it might be something that would work.

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  Message Not Read  RE: NIL ideas for Athletes thread
   Posted: 10/30/2023 1:00:18 PM 
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You're assuming that those 'advertising" dollars would result in an improved ROI. From what I've seen and read about many if not most NIL deals, there is little work involved. Most common thing I've seen so far is a required periodic social media posting.
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 1:07:14 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You're assuming that those 'advertising" dollars would result in an improved ROI. From what I've seen and read about many if not most NIL deals, there is little work involved. Most common thing I've seen so far is a required periodic social media posting.


I'm not assuming that at all. I was thinking those would be the folks who would possibly do NIL in Athens County. If a business was doing billboard ads and decided to do an NIL deal, it would cost them more money. The only way to find out if it was worth it would be to do it and see the results. If it wasn't, no more NIL in the future. Unless you're a sports fanatic and just want to throw money at athletics.
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 2:07:16 PM 
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 3:11:35 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.

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   Posted: 10/30/2023 3:39:51 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.



This is why I think it deserves a thread. We need some creative ideas. I think it’s unlikely you would get big deals but think if you network with the local businesses you could do smaller deals for less money. Better than no money at all. Could market a drink at a bar, a new food or deal a that a restaurant on gamedays. Maybe someone is having a house party and and offers a game worn jersey for a 50/50 raffle or something. Idk if last one is allowed with the rules but just am thinking of creative ways it would work. Think basketball players probably have the best marketability since they have no helmets and the team tends to be better but really any player if works hard and is smart could find a way to do this. Really think this would be a good school project for kids who are in Athens and have time on their hands. If you’re a business student would be a pretty cool thing to put on your resume. helped organize a nil deal for x athlete.

Last Edited: 10/30/2023 3:42:25 PM by TheBobcatBandit
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 4:53:57 PM 
TheBobcatBandit wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.



This is why I think it deserves a thread. We need some creative ideas. I think it’s unlikely you would get big deals but think if you network with the local businesses you could do smaller deals for less money. Better than no money at all. Could market a drink at a bar, a new food or deal a that a restaurant on gamedays. Maybe someone is having a house party and and offers a game worn jersey for a 50/50 raffle or something. Idk if last one is allowed with the rules but just am thinking of creative ways it would work. Think basketball players probably have the best marketability since they have no helmets and the team tends to be better but really any player if works hard and is smart could find a way to do this. Really think this would be a good school project for kids who are in Athens and have time on their hands. If you’re a business student would be a pretty cool thing to put on your resume. helped organize a nil deal for x athlete.


Sounds a lot like a high school booster club operation. Additionally, a significant number of people don't like NIL and therefore would not pay into it. And those who do think it's ok, how many of them are actually ponying up the cash.

Last Edited: 10/30/2023 5:02:45 PM by Alan Swank
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 7:38:25 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
TheBobcatBandit wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.



This is why I think it deserves a thread. We need some creative ideas. I think it’s unlikely you would get big deals but think if you network with the local businesses you could do smaller deals for less money. Better than no money at all. Could market a drink at a bar, a new food or deal a that a restaurant on gamedays. Maybe someone is having a house party and and offers a game worn jersey for a 50/50 raffle or something. Idk if last one is allowed with the rules but just am thinking of creative ways it would work. Think basketball players probably have the best marketability since they have no helmets and the team tends to be better but really any player if works hard and is smart could find a way to do this. Really think this would be a good school project for kids who are in Athens and have time on their hands. If you’re a business student would be a pretty cool thing to put on your resume. helped organize a nil deal for x athlete.


Sounds a lot like a high school booster club operation. Additionally, a significant number of people don't like NIL and therefore would not pay into it. And those who do think it's ok, how many of them are actually ponying up the cash.


Alabama's quarterback made more than $1mm last year. Shadeur Sanders is gonna make $5mm this year. Arch Manning 2.7m, Caleb Williams, $2.8mm. I'm not sure there's much evidence that there are a bunch of people out there who are taking a moral stand against the NIL.

Last Edited: 10/30/2023 7:43:07 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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   Posted: 10/30/2023 11:21:27 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
TheBobcatBandit wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.



This is why I think it deserves a thread. We need some creative ideas. I think it’s unlikely you would get big deals but think if you network with the local businesses you could do smaller deals for less money. Better than no money at all. Could market a drink at a bar, a new food or deal a that a restaurant on gamedays. Maybe someone is having a house party and and offers a game worn jersey for a 50/50 raffle or something. Idk if last one is allowed with the rules but just am thinking of creative ways it would work. Think basketball players probably have the best marketability since they have no helmets and the team tends to be better but really any player if works hard and is smart could find a way to do this. Really think this would be a good school project for kids who are in Athens and have time on their hands. If you’re a business student would be a pretty cool thing to put on your resume. helped organize a nil deal for x athlete.


Sounds a lot like a high school booster club operation. Additionally, a significant number of people don't like NIL and therefore would not pay into it. And those who do think it's ok, how many of them are actually ponying up the cash.


Alabama's quarterback made more than $1mm last year. Shadeur Sanders is gonna make $5mm this year. Arch Manning 2.7m, Caleb Williams, $2.8mm. I'm not sure there's much evidence that there are a bunch of people out there who are taking a moral stand against the NIL.



Yeah pre this be allowed by NCAA I would be against this but now that it’s allowed and others are making big money I don’t see why you wouldn’t if the opportunity presented itself. Some players I would get would like to live a more private life and not do something like this but I’m sure that’s not the case for everyone. Like mentioned above don’t think any player at Ohio would ever get the big money these other players are but could see them doing smaller deals with local places in Athens that could help them cover meals or a few books. Maybe more don’t really know until somebody’s does it. Another idea would be Depending on the player could do deals with companies based around where they come from the area around their high school if they are a big name in the area and still have strong ties there.

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   Posted: 10/30/2023 11:40:20 PM 
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10045014-colle... Look at what this kid from Norfolk state is doing. This would be a model for smaller school players or less popular sports that you wouldn’t think could make money. If you’re creative and smart about it think you could at Ohio


https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nil-college-basketball-foo...

Here is another good article showing how you can be creative with it.

Last Edited: 10/30/2023 11:43:18 PM by TheBobcatBandit
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   Posted: 10/31/2023 4:15:40 PM 
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   Posted: 11/1/2023 1:33:26 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
giacomo wrote:
It seems to me that if you’re a significant athletics donor or have a business in Athens county that advertises, you could switch gears and get the athletes involved.


You'd think, so far many have been resisting when approached. They see no value for themselves


Yeah, what audience do OU athletes have to tap into? We're a relatively small school, students have little money to spend, and we don't have TV deals or a massively engaged alumni base that athletes can reach.



Yet some on here want to expand the stadium and pay coaches more money. Go figure.

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   Posted: 11/14/2023 3:15:22 PM 
Projecting down the road a few years at this evolving paradigm is there any mechanism, outside the school itself, that would prevent a school from having a non-student on its team? The NCAA would raise a stink, but many here think they are increasingly a toothless tiger. For instance, why couldn't OHIO through its NIL collective pay Preston to come back and join the team just at tournament time for a few weeks? Whose going to enforce concepts like eligibility and academic progress? I seriously doubt that OHIO would ever do anything like this, but Akron, Iona, and Temple might be another story!

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   Posted: 11/14/2023 3:39:45 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Projecting down the road a few years at this evolving paradigm is there any mechanism, outside the school itself, that would prevent a school from having a non-student on its team? The NCAA would raise a stink, but many here think they are increasingly a toothless tiger. For instance, why couldn't OHIO through its NIL collective pay Preston to come back and join the team just at tournament time for a few weeks? Whose going to enforce concepts like eligibility and academic progress? I seriously doubt that OHIO would ever do anything like this, but Akron, Iona, and Temple might be another story!


Companies and industries are allowed to create and enforce rules around employees and terms their employees must meet. There's nothing to stop the NCAA (or whatever governing body comes out of this) from insisting that all members of the basketball team are enrolled and in good academic standing as a condition of their employment. There are also very easy ways to create eligibility requirements; professional sports leagues do so all the time.
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   Posted: 11/14/2023 9:18:06 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Projecting down the road a few years at this evolving paradigm is there any mechanism, outside the school itself, that would prevent a school from having a non-student on its team? The NCAA would raise a stink, but many here think they are increasingly a toothless tiger. For instance, why couldn't OHIO through its NIL collective pay Preston to come back and join the team just at tournament time for a few weeks? Whose going to enforce concepts like eligibility and academic progress? I seriously doubt that OHIO would ever do anything like this, but Akron, Iona, and Temple might be another story!


Companies and industries are allowed to create and enforce rules around employees and terms their employees must meet. There's nothing to stop the NCAA (or whatever governing body comes out of this) from insisting that all members of the basketball team are enrolled and in good academic standing as a condition of their employment. There are also very easy ways to create eligibility requirements; professional sports leagues do so all the time.


Anything stopping some group of schools starting their own athletic association and declaring that players don't actually have to be students? Maybe, extend eligibility to alumni, and high school graduates who have taken one extension course within the last five years?

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   Posted: 11/27/2023 2:37:15 AM 
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   Posted: 11/27/2023 11:04:18 AM 
JSF wrote:
Chauncey tourism spokesman.


Have you seen the new Dover Township Trail Head Park?

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