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Topic: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Topic: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

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Alan Swank
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Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 6:29:41 AM

I wonder if Ed's feeling a bit like "the Donald" this morning. Must be a rigged system.

http://www.thepostathens.com/news/ed-o-neil-received-most...

bornacatfan
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 9:06:02 AM

Interesting story from a few perspectives. Less than 400 voted and Al Bundy and Coyote Ugly were the top vote getters. That's name recognition for sure. Funny to read it was the first time ever with the opportunity to vote and the takeaway was that the coed said "I don't know why they took a vote..." as if it was a Mandate that represented a massive turnout and a huge student voice. Is anyone sure in the future if there are more turning out and more supporting the process the voice will not grow legs and be heard? Sounds like my FB timeline where all my Lib friends are filling it up with Impeach the GOvernor laments and burying the fact that only 18 % of the populace turned out to vote him in... Sounds like a Ohio made a good attempt to initially gather info and see how much interest there is in having a student voice

I was much more interested in the story on fees for losing student ID's and hall keys. http://www.thepostathens.com/news/ohio-university-collect...

Seems to me if I had a kid that had lost 15 student ID's by her Soph year and those have Ohio money on them I would be worried as sooner or later she will have to keep track of a license and credit cards. I just looked...I can still find mine from 1978, 1980 and 1981...they are the originals and have always been where I knew where they are. School can provide many opportunities to learn and become responsible....even if they are all not in the classroom

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MedinaCat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 10:59:38 AM

Is it now a requirement that the commencement speaker be a graduate of, or have attended Ohio University?

Last Edited: 4/19/2016 11:01:20 AM by MedinaCat

rpbobcat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 2:25:24 PM

MedinaCat wrote:

Is it now a requirement that the commencement speaker be a graduate of, or have attended Ohio University?

I don't know if its a requirement.

I do remember President McDavis saying that O.U likes having graduation speakers with some type of direct connection to the school.

He said it provides a different perspective if the speaker has a connection to the University.

Bobcatbob
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 2:36:02 PM

Two observations, well, more musings;

1) Do you suppose they could have delivered Ed O'Neill or was it just a "straw poll"?

2) Exit strategies are important. If you hold an open on-line vote, the results tend toward, say, "Boaty McBoatface" as the name of a very serious research vessel.

Last Edited: 4/19/2016 2:36:29 PM by Bobcatbob

Alan Swank
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:37:05 PM

What I don't understand is why you would let the seniors vote and then pick their last qualifying choice. Kind of like the mess the dems are in with all of these super delegates. Yes, go vote but the super folks are going to vote for who they want regardless of what you say. Just found this whole thing kind of weird - yes, we'll give you a voice but then we'll pick who we want.

cc-cat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 6:43:27 PM

At least the Dems will nominate the person who also gets the most votes (and the most non-super delegates). Now the Republicans are going to abandon not only the top vote-getter, but, if the leaders and elite have their way the top two vote-getters (despite what Paul Ryan says).

Last Edited: 4/19/2016 6:44:24 PM by cc-cat

OhioCatFan
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/19/2016 11:20:36 PM

cc-cat wrote:

That's what happens when the leading vote getter is only averaging 37 percent of the votes and has slight less in total delegates. All the non-Trump candidates together have more votes and more delegates than Trump. Pluralities don't win nominations -- at least on the first ballot. My money is on either Cruz or Kasich, or a Cruz-Kasich ticket. Note: Trump's big win in NY doesn't really change the math much; he appears still very unlikely to have a majority of delegates for ballot #1. If he doesn't win on the first ballot, he is toast.

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bobcatsquared
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/20/2016 6:07:56 AM

Agree, OCF. But what does Trump do in this scenario?

rpbobcat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/20/2016 7:14:00 AM

The issue of how each party picks their candidate has gotten a lot of air time around here in the past few weeks.

The consensus is that both parties' selection process is "corrupt".
The consensus is also that the Super Delegate system is more corrupt.

There were also a number of issues with the N.Y. primary itself.

1.Its "closed", like some other states.
You can only vote for the party you're registered in.
But you have be registered 6 months or so before the primary.

Sanders was complaining that this shut out a lot of his people.

2.Yesterday they found that the names of over 100,000 registered voters had "vanished" from the voting rolls,so they were shut out.

As far as Trump,one commentator was saying that his problem was that he and his team didn't understand the rules for getting delegates in different states.

As of now,Cruz has been mathematically eliminated from being able to get enough
delegates to secure the nomination on the first ballot.

One statistic I find interesting.
In most cases,if there is an "open" convention,the person with the most delegates doesn't get the nomination.

BillyTheCat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:35:29 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

cc-cat wrote:

Trump will reach the delegate total needed. And the fact that he is only a plurality candidate has no bearing on him, he believes he's leading the world in votes.

Ohio69
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/20/2016 11:31:17 AM

Lets take those lemons and add tequila, errrr, make lemonade.

In the end it seems like a nice speaker this year. And maybe the vote winners are not interested for future years. I'd love to see a young (under 30-35) speaker. Would be a different perspective for sure.

Well, heck, they tried something new. Maybe the winners were not available or wanted a speaking fee, or the university didn't want a hollywood type this year. Or, it simply turned out to be a bad idea....

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

OhioStunter
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/22/2016 5:21:10 PM

I've always found the commencement speaker tradition to be very odd.

Universities bring in a speaker -- most of the time who has no connection to the university -- to what? Provide career advice? Entertain the audience? Inspire the next generation? (By the way, Hillary Clinton did none of this when she delivered the address in 1997).

In my opinion, the university presidents should be able to do all of the above. Yet, we will see universities that have Conan O'Brien or Jon Stewart as commencement speakers that will get the schools that hired them in the news. (I like those guys, though).

I thought the purpose of the graduation ceremony was to accept your diploma and hear inspiring words from university administrators and peers. Not to listen to hired entertainment.

Robert Fox
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/23/2016 7:37:42 AM

I think a speaker from outside the institution at least symbocally represents the doorway these students are graduating through. They are now in the process of leaving behind their academic institution and the speaker--from the outside--is recognizing their achievements and welcoming them into the bigger world. That's a role the institution itself cannot offer. They've prepared the student for the world. The hired speaker is there to acknowledge that achievement.

Alan Swank
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/24/2016 11:08:47 AM

http://www.athensmessenger.com/news/actor-ed-o-neill-was-...

Interesting committee of students and even more interesting that they provided the top 8 in alphabetical order not rank order.

rpbobcat
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 4/25/2016 7:12:42 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

http://www.athensmessenger.com/news/actor-ed-o-neill-was-...

Interesting committee of students and even more interesting that they provided the top 8 in alphabetical order not rank order.

Wasn't sure whether to post this here or the "End of The Post" thread.

The Post did their article about this in mid April.
It basically went over the vote totals,but that was about it.

I would think that someone at The Post would have investigated exactly what criteria was used to select the speaker.

Maybe the Messenger will do a follow up.

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Ed O'Neil and Donald Trump

Posted: 5/1/2016 11:51:32 AM

Ask Trump. He'll tell you that he won the student poll.

And it was TREMENDOUS!.

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