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WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 7:04:16 AM  Maybe I'm missing something,but salon.com is not exactly an objective news source. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 8:45:01 AM  rpbobcat wrote: Maybe I'm missing something,but salon.com is not exactly an objective news source. Are any of our "news" sources objective today? Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 9:09:44 AM  None are truly objective,but some are better then others. I wouldn't put Salon.com in the "better" category. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 11:56:02 AM  rpbobacat--I agree; it'd be difficult to argue against your thought that many, many sources of information have a definite point of view. As ususal, though, I look for a reasonably representative view/presentation of the truth. OCF and I have had exchanges on politics. I lean left and my view is that he leans far right. He's stated that Benghazi is going to bring Hillary down. I think that he's not real fond of Hillary. Okay. The problem to me is that he's too far in the extreme right echo chamber. Specifically, on email and Benghazi there's either nothing anyone cares about and/or no smoking gun evidence. Combine that with Hillary's connections and strong support from a significant part of the population--and it's not very likely that Benghazi is going to dent Hillary if it hasn't already. (How many dozen more fruitless investigations can Congress do?) Unless you live on the extreme right. OCF isn't too big on considering information which doesn't support his point of view. I'm not sure if he took these viewpoints but typical examples would be refusing to believe that Fiorina's claim about the Planned Parenthood video was incorrect or that attacks on Planned Parenthood locations are a result of right wing rhetoric. (I think he asserted both of these viewpoints but I don't have the time to go back and confirm.) Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 12:16:31 PM  Alan Swank wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Maybe I'm missing something,but salon.com is not exactly an objective news source. Are any of our "news" sources objective today? Touche and very true! Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 12:29:34 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: rpbobacat--I agree; it'd be difficult to argue against your thought that many, many sources of information have a definite point of view. As ususal, though, I look for a reasonably representative view/presentation of the truth. OCF and I have had exchanges on politics. I lean left and my view is that he leans far right. He's stated that Benghazi is going to bring Hillary down. I think that he's not real fond of Hillary. Okay. The problem to me is that he's too far in the extreme right echo chamber. Specifically, on email and Benghazi there's either nothing anyone cares about and/or no smoking gun evidence. Combine that with Hillary's connections and strong support from a significant part of the population--and it's not very likely that Benghazi is going to dent Hillary if it hasn't already. (How many dozen more fruitless investigations can Congress do?) Unless you live on the extreme right. OCF isn't too big on considering information which doesn't support his point of view. I'm not sure if he took these viewpoints but typical examples would be refusing to believe that Fiorina's claim about the Planned Parenthood video was incorrect or that attacks on Planned Parenthood locations are a result of right wing rhetoric. (I think he asserted both of these viewpoints but I don't have the time to go back and confirm.) Let me start out by saying I'm a political junkie.Current and throughout history. Other then "hard core" Democrats,I don't know if Mrs. Clinton's support is that strong. Assuming she gets the nomination,and depending on who she is running against, there are a lot of skeletons in her closet that could come back to haunt her. As I recall,she pushed to topple Libya's government. So Benghazi or not, she's going to have to deal with that cluster you know what. She's also,for better or worse,going to be tied to the mistakes of the current administration including underestimating ISIS. I also think she's gonna get hammered with issues concerning the Clinton Foundation. Again,as I recall,the foundation was,at one time,called the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation. A number of Democrats I know think that something is in the works to scuttle Mrs.Clinton and bring in Biden as the party's savior. Guess we'll find out. Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,344 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 2:25:51 PM  When discussing any aspect of Hil's political future always ask yourself if she personally is more or less assailable than her husband. I'm not a fan but I think the answer is not even close. If anything, she is a sympathetic character thanks to Bill's shenanigans. Even if you think of it as a toss-up, check how it turned out for Bill. Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,719 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 2:40:47 PM  When I was a lad, I leaned left on most issues. That led to some flaming arguments between me and my right leaning dad. One such argument moved Mom to tears. Dad and I were shocked when she started weeping. To us it was a political argument that didn't diminish our mutual love and respect. My first job after Army service in Korea was in New York. While there, Nelson Rockefeller was governor. Although nominally a Republican and later a Republican VP (I've a photo above my home desk from a private meeting I had with him in his Old Exec Office Bldg office in December 1976 and, yes, I enjoyed the meeting), he was a big time spender. Pushed through a surtax on the already high state income tax. Introduced a lottery and off-track betting. I started leaning rightward. Today? On fiscal and monetary issues, I lean right. On social and environmental issues, I lean left. What the heck does that make me? Hillary? My late Arkansas-born wife Lynne couldn't stomach either Hillary or Bill. Lynne likely would be asking: "Why doesn't a TV network produce a special called Hillary's Lies?" http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 2:43:03 PM  Probably all correct. Of course, she'll get attacked for this and that--it's what happens to candidates. But she'll likely weather that storm and be a viable candidate. OCF made some comment to the effect that she'd likely end up in jail over Benghazi and/or her email account. Sure, it could happen. But to think that it's at all likely is not reasonable given all circumstances (she's a Clinton, has broad support, none of a ton of investigations have turned up anything actionable, etc). OCF is too caught up in the far right echo chamber. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 2:48:10 PM  rp--It's pretty indeniable that the Clinton's are savvy about politics. I think that her support at this time among women and minorities is pretty strong. Thus, I think it's fair to say that her support is reasonably broad. She may not be at the volume of the Repub candidates but in the background she's organizing, doing what it takes to be a formidable candidate for the final election...since it's pretty obvious that she'll be the Dem nominee. It's interesting to me that the Dems do such a poor job of framing the political landscape. Like them or not, the Repubs are out there active and shouting. As a left-leaner, I'd like to see Dems be much more assertive, much less reactive. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 3:16:34 PM  Mike Johnson wrote: Hillary? My late Arkansas-born wife Lynne couldn't stomach either Hillary or Bill. Lynne likely would be asking: "Why doesn't a TV network produce a special called Hillary's Lies?" Mrs. Clinton has been caught in a number of lies and 1/2 truths. She and her husband also take "parsing" to a new level. Problem is,she's allowed to get away with it. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/11/2015 6:23:16 PM  I'm not by any means saying that any end justifies any means but a case can be made that the Clinton's lies/peccadillos (sp?)/deceptions can be overlooked if you like their policies and/or don't like the opposition's approach and policies. I know...there's the Whitewater death charge or some such that will be brought up... It's tough. There are about no politicians out there who are both 1) normal and 2) unsullied. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,114 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/12/2015 3:15:27 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: It's tough. There are about no politicians out there who are both 1) normal and 2) unsullied. While I cannot say he's completely 'unsullied', I would second rpbobcat's belief that Joe Biden is somebody many Dems would like to see and I think he's a pretty 'normal' guy who is as 'unsullied' as a politician can be. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/21/2015 12:21:23 PM  OCF, my man!: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-chides-republicans-lack-alter... http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/12/21/3734185/msnb... Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: OCF SPECIAL    Posted: 12/22/2015 7:01:26 PM  OCF--More or less a fact...re how people feel...certainly not a minority... https://www.yahoo.com/health/support-for-legal-abortion-a... Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! 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