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Got a link to this tote in an official OU email today: http://bobcatstore.ohioalumni.org/paw-tote-bag/ Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,719 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/15/2015 10:13:27 PM  I just received a photo of my 6-month-old grandnephew wearing a paw shirt. His mom is an OHIO alum. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/16/2015 6:43:47 PM  LONG LIVE THE PAW!!! Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,370 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/17/2015 10:40:44 AM  I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/17/2015 6:26:32 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now. I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,370 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/18/2015 9:54:03 AM  Alan Swank wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now. I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years. From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,153 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 5/20/2015 8:32:14 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio. +1 The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 7/24/2015 8:54:24 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now. I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years. There are many things I didn't like about Boeh, but the new logo wasn't one of them. Where he missed the mark, was not allowing the paw as a secondary logo and not reaping merchandising benefits from both logos. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,779 Status: Online     RE: The Paw    Posted: 7/24/2015 9:30:41 PM  OhioStunter wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now. I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years. There are many things I didn't like about Boeh, but the new logo wasn't one of them. Where he missed the mark, was not allowing the paw as a secondary logo and not reaping merchandising benefits from both logos. I believe the separation was necessary to establish the brand, get as many Paw people to accept the new logo, by either choice or it wears on you, and get media all on the same page. I also see the rebranding years later as a good move and the right time. Just MO Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/18/2015 6:25:09 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio. +1 The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-) OCF - I hope you're not boycotting homecoming over this: https://www.ohio.edu/homecoming / Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,153 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/18/2015 8:02:01 PM  Alan Swank wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio. +1 The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-) OCF - I hope you're not boycotting homecoming over this: https://www.ohio.edu/homecoming / Hmm . . . guess they are just trying to appeal to students who were here during the "lost years" of Cleve and PapaL I won't boycott. My last Bobcat Boycott was after the second or third game of the PapaL Era. I walked out of the stadium in the second quarter, I think it was, and never came back the rest of year. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/18/2015 9:14:02 PM  "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/18/2015 9:52:06 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. HERESY!! The PAW and Dr. Ping are fantastic. Of course, I'm a 1985 grad......... Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,153 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/18/2015 10:09:08 PM  Charles J. Ping had a lot on his plate when he became president, and he brought the university successfully out of near bankruptcy. He's a good and honest man, but I will not deny that he made a mess of ICA, and not just in the financial area. He made some other bonehead decisions in relation to athletics. It's not so much that he wanted to de-emphasize athletics but more that this was just not his area of expertise and he sometimes intervened in decisions that were best left to others. On the whole, though the Ping Administration gets very high marks from this Bobcat fan. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 8:34:14 AM  Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking). Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,418 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 8:59:26 AM  The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 10:47:21 AM  Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking). MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 10:53:31 AM  The Optimist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking). MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently. I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,370 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 11:08:02 AM  shabamon wrote: The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar. The Paw we used was very much based on an actual Bobcat footprint. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 11:27:11 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: shabamon wrote: The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar. The Paw we used was very much based on an actual Bobcat footprint. http://www.bear-tracker.com/bobcattrackphotos.html Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 11:45:50 AM  Alan Swank wrote: The Optimist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking). MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently. I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too. I agree that athletes play for championships and fans expect championships. That doesn't change my point at all. ICA is valuable to a University far beyond the results on the field for one game or one season. A MAC championship is not the only way to measure the value ICA brings to Ohio University. The value Ohio Athletics has brought to Ohio University the last decade is 100-fold compared to the decade prior, and that is without a MAC Championship in football. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,072 Status: Offline     RE: The Paw    Posted: 8/19/2015 12:49:17 PM  The Optimist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: The Optimist wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: "The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement. Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking). MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently. I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too. I agree that athletes play for championships and fans expect championships. That doesn't change my point at all. ICA is valuable to a University far beyond the results on the field for one game or one season. A MAC championship is not the only way to measure the value ICA brings to Ohio University. The value Ohio Athletics has brought to Ohio University the last decade is 100-fold compared to the decade prior, and that is without a MAC Championship in football. I can't/won't disagree with that but can you give us 5 objective and measurable examples of the value that you cite? 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