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Topic: A generational thing?

Topic: A generational thing?

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bobcatsquared
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A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 7:55:02 AM

Why do young adults pay $100-plus for tickets then spend >50% of the time at a concert talking, looking down at their smartphone, sharing apps/snapshots/etc., things they can do for free on the couch at home? Seems to happen during moments when the performer and older audience would appreciate quiet.

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rpbobcat
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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 9:53:41 AM

Or,why do people spend good money for a concert,then get so drunk or high that they end up catatonic before the concert even starts ?

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 10:59:16 AM

or, from the other perspective, why do old farts (like me) think that they can control a concert environment like it was Sunday school or something?

I broke up a fight at the Nelsonville Music Festival a few years back between a guy of my advanced age and some 20 somethings who dared invade the space he staked out with his lawn chair. Willie draws an eclectic crowd that's for sure.

Yep. it's a generational thing.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 8:24:31 PM

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 9:33:09 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Not the crowd you expected last night for the Boss, huh? What I found interesting were the $30 off tickets the day of the show to a less than full house. Reviews are saying Tommy Morello while extremely talented is a bad match for the band.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 9:34:57 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Went to a James Taylor concert at Polaris a few years back and the two yapping ladies behind us were so bad that I had to tell them to be quiet. They shut up and everyone around us enjoyed the show. If you want to catch up on things, play the record at home and sit on your couch.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/16/2014 10:38:23 PM

Springsteen was okay last night. Not a life changing show. As far as sales go, it doesn't help that High Hopes is a rancid, lifeless album (and I liked Wrecking Ball and have enjoyed most late-period Springsteen aside from Working On A Dream). And filling arenas in the midwest has become really tough.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/17/2014 7:02:03 AM

I live in Bruce's "backyard" and have seen him over 70 times.

Most of my friends have seen him that many times or more.

I can tell you there is virtually no buzz out here for the 10 shows he's doing.

Its gotta say something when he's not doing any NY (Albany doesn't count) /NJ shows,and that there's no talk of adding dates.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/17/2014 1:51:49 PM

I don't know if it's a generational thing. It's more of a distraction than anything. I'm 29, so I fall right in between the pre-smartphone and nothing-but-smartphone crowds. I find it extremely annoying when someone shows up to an event, movie, party, etc and do nothing but sit on their phone. Am I going to get upset over it? No. That's how some people communicate and live their lives. Do I choose to live my life that way? No, but I can find a good balance of both. I'm more worried for the younger generation and their ability to socialize non-electronically than I am about the way they spend their money.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/17/2014 11:36:10 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

. . . . I'm 29, so I fall right in between the pre-smartphone and nothing-but-smartphone crowds. . . .

Well, I fall in the generation that started life when radio was king and first watched TV at a neighbor's house on a six inch oval screen that was attached to a "TV ready" radio. However, I'm now addicted to my iPhone just as much as any teenager. So, don't overgeneralize about various generations.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/18/2014 8:42:51 AM

You can not overstate the impact of the smart phone on our society. One thing I often think about is how people never just sit and think anymore, ever. The few minutes you have before class, waiting for the bus, during commercials, endless moments of downtime thru the day...Now every second of those moments is spent on the smart phone.

And I do believe that in a couple more decades, almost all communication will be in text form. I am pretty sure I could offer $100 to the first of my young staff to CALL me to discuss something, and none of them would do it. When these people grow up and are in charge more, it will become more and more prevalent and calling someone will be viewed like we view someone using a fax machine or pager. Any work that can be done remotely will be, doing something in person when not needed will be seen as a complete waste of resources.

And I am not necessarily being one of those that screams how terrible this all is. It is hard for me to accept, but I recognize that these things happen and what is normal to me will not be normal to my kids. That doesn't make them terrible heartless people that are getting it all wrong.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/18/2014 9:38:31 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

I'm not a full-on Luddite, but I stopped using much of it about six months ago. Rarely Tweet. Use an old flip phone for calls and texts. Use an IPad only for work stuff and dawdling around the internet and this strange place (much more as the OU basketball world has turned like a soap opera over the last month). But I did make a conscious effort to increase my reading on paper-based pages and it's like my brain has been given a spa treatment. Anxiety decreases. Creativity blooms. Sociability becomes easier. The world becomes clearer devoid of that bluish, strange filter a screen places over your eyes and your brain and your heart. I believe on the total, technology is a wonderful, beautiful thing to be treasured. I think it's also a force harder to curtail than any booze or drug or personal indiscretion. Because it's unseen and the side effects are indistinguishable to even the closest in our lives. I'm quite fond of people who have the addiction to their phone, however. I've lived with crippling social anxiety all my life, long before I had ever seen a cellphone or a computer. (Don't judge me, but I'm just 29 had an electric typerwiter in my room. My parents ARE Luddites). But those people glued to their phones and afraid to do much else are like my soulmates, except easier to heal. Just take their phones away.

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JSF
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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/18/2014 9:58:03 PM

The kids at school are disgusted I don't have a smartphone. More than one has demanded I run out and buy an iPhone or Galaxy. A couple have questioned me about it.

And they flat-out don't believe me when I say I don't have a TV.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/29/2014 2:07:48 PM

JSF wrote:

www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/

Last Edited: 4/29/2014 2:08:14 PM by DelBobcat

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/29/2014 2:10:36 PM

rpbobcat wrote:

A lot of my friends (and me) are really mad that he isn't coming to Philly. Closest is Hershey, but I can't make that show.

I can tell you that the last time he was in Philly he played in front of a massive crowd (and me) in Citizen's Bank Park and no one in that ballpark was distracted by electronic gadgets. Unless they were snap chatting pictures of the concert to their friends.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 4/30/2014 1:10:04 PM

I like to check out Bruce's setlists for each show with some accompanying posts about the show (I know, "get a life"). The following comes from a fan at last night's show in Florida:

"Also, I owe some blonde douche bag surfer punk who was wasted and spent more time taking selfies and shouting during the quite songs a punch on the face. Other than a few people clearly there just to brag about it on social media, killer show/crowd."

This topic comes up in just about every show's discussion.

rpbobcat
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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/2/2014 3:05:53 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

I like to check out Bruce's setlists for each show with some accompanying posts about the show (I know, "get a life").

Oh well,guess I need a life too.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/17/2014 8:50:24 PM

I'm younger generation (28), but I've never understood the point of shelling out that much money just to hear a song sound worse live than it does on the radio. I get nothing out of actually being able to see the artist while hearing the same song I have heard a million times.

Needless to say, the closest thing to a "concert" I've ever been to was a 3 song set by a band at a bar in Canton (on their way to the real show in Cleveland) I won in a radio contest.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/17/2014 10:36:23 PM

ts1227 wrote:

Needless to say, the closest thing to a "concert" I've ever been to was a 3 song set by a band at a bar in Canton (on their way to the real show in Cleveland) I won in a radio contest.

Some bands or artists when taken from the pristine sound management of a studio simply don't sound right in the flesh. Some of them have a sound that absolutely comes alive on stage and you wonder how a studio could ever hold them.

Given your age, ts, and the high percentage of crap out there today that sounds completely manufactured, it's not a surprise that you might have attended someone who sounds like shit live. The truth is, you just went to the wrong show.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/19/2014 7:49:51 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

ts1227 wrote:

Needless to say, the closest thing to a "concert" I've ever been to was a 3 song set by a band at a bar in Canton (on their way to the real show in Cleveland) I won in a radio contest.

That's one of the funniest and most truthful things I've read on heer in a long time. We go to lots of concerts - 10 to 15 at Fur Peace alone each year. In fact we saw Glass Harp there Saturday night and listening to Jorma and Phil Keaggy do Crossroads live is something you'll never hear on an album. Long live live music!

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/19/2014 11:47:37 AM

ts1227 wrote:

Needless to say, the closest thing to a "concert" I've ever been to was a 3 song set by a band at a bar in Canton (on their way to the real show in Cleveland) I won in a radio contest.

I'm 32 and can relate to this in some ways. Most of the time the music is so loud, you can't make out what the singers are saying. I do understand the experience of it and have enjoyed myself at the few concerts I've attended, but more than anything, though, is the cost. $100 for a lot of artists is an overwhelming amount. I love sports and I still struggle with just how expensive games are to attend; hence, the reason I've never been to an NFL game.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/21/2014 12:14:12 PM

Live music is better. Bumper stickers should be issued.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/21/2014 12:54:07 PM

Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks (with Naomi Eisenberg) said it best about "Canned Music".

"All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano.

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RE: A generational thing?

Posted: 5/21/2014 3:10:48 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Given your age, ts, and the high percentage of crap out there today that sounds completely manufactured, it's not a surprise that you might have attended someone who sounds like shit live. The truth is, you just went to the wrong show.

Indeed. In fact, when I want to buy some music now I find myself searching for live sets as opposed to studio stuff.

Also, there's tons of great acts out there for far less than $100.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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