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Topic: OT-UT paying for their athletes

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Kinggeorge4
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OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/17/2024 3:41:24 PM

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41302985...

GO BOBCATS
GEORGE

greencat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/17/2024 5:11:14 PM

They've been paying athletes for at least 50 years.

And that's not all...

Here's a classic...

https://www.espn.com/ncaa/s/2003/1006/1632218.html

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/17/2024 6:03:49 PM

We don�t have many avenues to NIL cash, It�s something we should consider.

100%Cat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 10:31:52 AM

Can we stop calling it NIL at this point? This started out as players profiting from endorsements and advertising type things, which seemed true to "NIL." If we're taking ticket sales money and paying players with it, this is pay-to-play, to me.

Let me be clear, I don't care that players get money from this avenue. I have a problem with calling it "NIL" if it's not. Just call it what it is.

Chris Galloway
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 11:56:27 AM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

We don�t have many avenues to NIL cash, It�s something we should consider.

100% agree. Add 10-20% or earmark the parking fees. Something. Anything.

Go Bobcats!

Deciduous Forest Cat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 12:55:01 PM

Chris Galloway wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

We don�t have many avenues to NIL cash, It�s something we should consider.

100% agree. Add 10-20% or earmark the parking fees. Something. Anything.

If we could simply charge more without losing attendance, I'm certain we would have tried that just to support the department. Why would we do it now just to pay players when we have bills to pay, scholarships to support, facilities to maintain/fix?

greencat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 1:49:29 PM

greencat wrote:

They've been paying athletes for at least 50 years.

And that's not all...

Here's a classic...

https://www.espn.com/ncaa/s/2003/1006/1632218.html

THIS was always a hoot, hence "if the vols get caught cheating one more time, the NCAA is gonna give SMU the death penalty again, and this time they mean it!"
https://www.thefulmercup.com/standings /

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 2:24:55 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Chris Galloway wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

We don�t have many avenues to NIL cash, It�s something we should consider.

100% agree. Add 10-20% or earmark the parking fees. Something. Anything.

Well for starters, you know or are at least told directly where the money is going, where increases - or even donations - are often ambiguous.

A ticket increase for shits is much different than "we're increasing your tickets because we want to put this best product on the field and maintain our position in the conference".

And/or parking. Park in lots X, Y and Z and $10 of your cost goes directly to the athletes.

Deciduous Forest Cat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 2:50:44 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Chris Galloway wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

We don�t have many avenues to NIL cash, It�s something we should consider.

100% agree. Add 10-20% or earmark the parking fees. Something. Anything.

A ticket increase for shits is much different than "we're increasing your tickets because we want to put this best product on the field and maintain our position in the conference".

Since you brought it up, designating an increase for improving the bathrooms is a great idea.

Alan Swank
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 7:56:18 PM

Done. Glad I can go watch high school games (unless the OHSAA screws that up).

Pataskala
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/18/2024 10:01:50 PM

Just one more fee on a ticket, like the Ticketmaster fee, the local entertainment tax, the seat license, etc. I'm sure Tenn's fans will continue to fork over their hard-earned dollars so long as Tenn still beats a team like Kent 71-0. Student tickets actually go up 25%, from $20 to $25 after a 100% increase this season.

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

OhioBobcat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/19/2024 11:15:25 AM

100%Cat wrote:

Concerning Tennessee's new "talent fee," it is complete BS that this idea directly falls on the alum and fans to pay the frickin' players. I find it utterly insulting and outrageous. Look, I was open to the idea of NIL as the Olympic Sport model it was presented to us as all from the start (student athletes could profit from their name, image and likeness with jersey sales, signing autographs, doing commercials, etc). However, that cover was a farce based on how Collectives operate under NIL. Still, whether you like NIL or not, or give/gave to Collectives or not, you as a fan/alum don't/didn't have to buy into it (literally or figuratively). But the important thing was - you could make a choice. You could do it, or you could not. The choice was yours. You could still go to games and support the program with your paid admission, paid parking, paid concessions, etc. But you weren't forced to also pay them players.

Now, in the case of UT, they are going to raise ticket prices to DIRECTLY pay the players. Tennessee doesn't want to use the gobs of money it brings in to pay its own players. It wants to pass the buck - literally - to the alums and fans who have already been giving money, to do it for them. Tennessee isn't asking those who go to the game if they want to give money to the UT players, they are now telling you that you will. Complete BS! Let's not sugarcoat it here. Tennessee is rolling player payment into their ticket prices. In 2025, you will buy a game ticket for $100. The fan/alum will chalk this up as the price of admission, but Tennessee will process this as a $90 sale and a $10 player payment. The "true" admission fee would be $90. But you would be turned away and not allowed to enter until you paid $10 more to also directly pay the players - that you already spent $90 to watch. It's complete hor$eshit. And sadly, it's probable going to catch on and be used by many others.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/19/2024 11:17:52 AM

100%Cat wrote:

Don't we already know that it's going to become revenue share directly from the universities to the players? There have been some challenges to that settlement, but it feels inevitable to me that that's the route.

BillyTheCat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/19/2024 4:24:13 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

Done. Glad I can go watch high school games (unless the OHSAA screws that up).

Like the NCAAits the state legislatures and judges �screwing� what you remember as sports up. Today there are 13 exceptions to having to sit out. The OHSAA isn�t responsible for any of those exceptions!

BillyTheCat
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/19/2024 4:26:56 PM

One person here stated years ago, be careful what you wish for with the NIL

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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RE: OT-UT paying for their athletes

Posted: 9/19/2024 5:57:43 PM

Ohio taxes every single student to fund the athletic department and so they can afford to participate in athletics at the D1 level. Doesn't matter if you don't care a tiny bit about sports, and never intend to go to a single game in your 4 years in Athens. In 2020, that was $736 per year per student. It's likely increased since.

Can someone explain to me why that's okay, but raising ticket prices by 10% for the people most interested in Tennessee football is a bridge too far?

One of those two things definitely sounds egregious to me. But it's not the idea that fans of SEC football might be willing to pay 10% more than they do currently.

Last Edited: 9/19/2024 6:11:52 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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