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Author Message GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,504 Status: Offline     So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/23/2025 12:03:34 PM  An inside look at what Texas State pitched to the PAC. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6743652/2025/10/23/pac-1... / "The Bobcats’ revenue-sharing budget across all sports is expected to grow from $4 million in the 2026 fiscal year to $7.2 million in 2029. Football’s pool will almost double (from $2.5 million to $4.9 million). Men’s basketball will increase from $600,000 to $1.1 million." "The document touted Texas State’s “unwavering” commitment to football, citing GJ Kinne’s position as the Sun Belt’s highest-paid coach and promising future investments that would “position the program for long-term success in the Pac-12.” That sport’s budget is projected to expand from $14.1 million to $20 million from 2024-27." Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 337 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 9:41:05 AM  GoCats105 wrote: An inside look at what Texas State pitched to the PAC. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6743652/2025/10/23/pac-1... / "The Bobcats’ revenue-sharing budget across all sports is expected to grow from $4 million in the 2026 fiscal year to $7.2 million in 2029. Football’s pool will almost double (from $2.5 million to $4.9 million). Men’s basketball will increase from $600,000 to $1.1 million." "The document touted Texas State’s “unwavering” commitment to football, citing GJ Kinne’s position as the Sun Belt’s highest-paid coach and promising future investments that would “position the program for long-term success in the Pac-12.” That sport’s budget is projected to expand from $14.1 million to $20 million from 2024-27." I'm not crazy about leaving the MAC but if it's something that a school must do to stay alive in the top division(s) of football and basketball, then so-be-it. I figure w/ NIL and the crazy tv deals along with the playoff system, the MACs days are probably numbered. Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 137 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 10:20:57 AM  This has been something I've clearly thought about in the back of my mind. I hope the MAC gets it together and starts making moves to better themselves as a conference. However, the actions (or inactions) of MAC leadership are indicating to me that they're content with the idea of staying the same as they always have. The landscape of college sports in general is changing. If you're not willing to change and adapt with the times, then you're getting worse and falling behind. Earlier this year we had those rumors of "Is Ohio thinking about joining the Sun Belt?" Honestly, I hope there's even a small bit of truth to those rumors because I find myself not trusting MAC leadership right now. For me, I don't want to get demoted to the FCS level. Forget that. If the MAC ship sinks, Ohio better have a plan in place to jump on board the S.S. Sun Belt or any other conference. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 10:53:28 AM  I think we're less than a decade -- maybe less -- away from the FCS/FBS groupings being either a) replaced altogether or b) made completely meaningless. It feels pretty clear to me that the top tier of college football is going to break off and do their own thing. It's the logical next step of all of this, and the only hope for the conferences left behind is that in doing so a relegation & promotion system's created. But I wouldn't hold my breath. At this point, the MAC and similarly situated conferences are FCS in name only. We play for our own championship (the MAC) with very little additional upside. And we sign up for it because we get a little bit of revenue share. It's not super clear to me what options the MAC has. They have no money, no fan support, pretty weak brands and tradition, and poor alumni support. Hard for me to see the plan to change things on the timeline needed. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,504 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 12:00:05 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I think we're less than a decade -- maybe less -- away from the FCS/FBS groupings being either a) replaced altogether or b) made completely meaningless. It feels pretty clear to me that the top tier of college football is going to break off and do their own thing. It's the logical next step of all of this, and the only hope for the conferences left behind is that in doing so a relegation & promotion system's created. But I wouldn't hold my breath. At this point, the MAC and similarly situated conferences are FCS in name only. We play for our own championship (the MAC) with very little additional upside. And we sign up for it because we get a little bit of revenue share. It's not super clear to me what options the MAC has. They have no money, no fan support, pretty weak brands and tradition, and poor alumni support. Hard for me to see the plan to change things on the timeline needed. I think the only question that remains is how many actually break away. The B1G and SEC have made their intentions clear that they want as many playoff spots as possible just to themselves, so why would they want to share their revenue with the Big 12 or ACC (or anyone else for that matter)? I could easily see them even telling the likes of Mississippi State, Arkansas, Purdue or Rutgers to take a hike also while grabbing the leftovers with more marketability (FSU, Miami, etc). Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 337 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 12:47:40 PM  STVCastle wrote: This has been something I've clearly thought about in the back of my mind. I hope the MAC gets it together and starts making moves to better themselves as a conference. However, the actions (or inactions) of MAC leadership are indicating to me that they're content with the idea of staying the same as they always have. The landscape of college sports in general is changing. If you're not willing to change and adapt with the times, then you're getting worse and falling behind. Earlier this year we had those rumors of "Is Ohio thinking about joining the Sun Belt?" Honestly, I hope there's even a small bit of truth to those rumors because I find myself not trusting MAC leadership right now. For me, I don't want to get demoted to the FCS level. Forget that. If the MAC ship sinks, Ohio better have a plan in place to jump on board the S.S. Sun Belt or any other conference. I used to think that way but realistically, we have ZERO chance of winning in the FBS so why not go to the FCS where we can repeat the national championship of 1960? Where we are now, we could go 13 and 0 only to get invited to get pummeled at a place like Ohio State or Alabama. Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 137 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 1:30:42 PM  Tymaster wrote: STVCastle wrote: This has been something I've clearly thought about in the back of my mind. I hope the MAC gets it together and starts making moves to better themselves as a conference. However, the actions (or inactions) of MAC leadership are indicating to me that they're content with the idea of staying the same as they always have. The landscape of college sports in general is changing. If you're not willing to change and adapt with the times, then you're getting worse and falling behind. Earlier this year we had those rumors of "Is Ohio thinking about joining the Sun Belt?" Honestly, I hope there's even a small bit of truth to those rumors because I find myself not trusting MAC leadership right now. For me, I don't want to get demoted to the FCS level. Forget that. If the MAC ship sinks, Ohio better have a plan in place to jump on board the S.S. Sun Belt or any other conference. I used to think that way but realistically, we have ZERO chance of winning in the FBS so why not go to the FCS where we can repeat the national championship of 1960? Where we are now, we could go 13 and 0 only to get invited to get pummeled at a place like Ohio State or Alabama. The Ohio States and Alabamas of the world can break away from everyone else and do whatever. The B1G/SEC are probably going to do that in the 2030s anyway. In truth, I don't think we should keep playing P2 schools because there's nothing to gain from doing that. But that doesn't mean we have to intentionally go down to the FCS level and "deal with it." Some FCS schools are still planning on moving up to FBS. The Group of 6 will most likely be its own level, and I'm fine with that. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,504 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 1:45:46 PM  STVCastle wrote: In truth, I don't think we should keep playing P2 schools because there's nothing to gain from doing that. Gotta pay the bills, my man. Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 137 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 1:56:45 PM  GoCats105 wrote: STVCastle wrote: In truth, I don't think we should keep playing P2 schools because there's nothing to gain from doing that. Gotta pay the bills, my man. Indeed, we do, but we can come up with more creative ways to pay the bills than to get crushed by 40+ points every year by P2 schools that don't really care about the G6. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 3,078 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 2:21:46 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I think we're less than a decade -- maybe less -- away from the FCS/FBS groupings being either a) replaced altogether or b) made completely meaningless. It feels pretty clear to me that the top tier of college football is going to break off and do their own thing. It's the logical next step of all of this, and the only hope for the conferences left behind is that in doing so a relegation & promotion system's created. But I wouldn't hold my breath. At this point, the MAC and similarly situated conferences are FCS in name only. We play for our own championship (the MAC) with very little additional upside. And we sign up for it because we get a little bit of revenue share. It's not super clear to me what options the MAC has. They have no money, no fan support, pretty weak brands and tradition, and poor alumni support. Hard for me to see the plan to change things on the timeline needed. This is dead on. (though I think we're closer to hearing about this plan within 5 years at most.) There will be one or two super conferences, and then the wreckage of everyone else who hung on too long, or didn't insulate themselves from it. If you want to illustrate just how far off we are from competing in the Big 12 - even though it's become fairly common for us to beat up the bottom and middle - keep this figure in mind: $100M That is West Virginia's athletic budget. $109M to be more specific. They rank at the bottom of the Big 12. OU's is $35M. I've been joking about the MAC BELT for most of my 4-5 years here, and many years before that, but I think it's time for a real exploratory study. Because we're gonna get left in the dust trying to hold on to the illustrious history of mid-american conference football. Honestly, I dont know what you do, and usually I have a million ideas, but execution wise... no idea. I just don't want to be executed. Every school is out for themselves. Every school is chasing the dangling P5 carrot. If we insulated ourselves into the most powerful G5, that would be a start, but revenue sharing, tv contracts, I have no idea. Feels like most schools would just as soon ride inaction into obsolescence. All jokes aside, I think MAC BELT has a path forward, where our options in both conferences are singularly quite limited. Last Edited: 10/24/2025 2:25:45 PM by M.D.W.S.T Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 3:24:37 PM  Agree completely. My guess at the top is that the conference alignment race -- one driven basically solely by football tv revenue -- already has the powers that be at major schools/conferences looking around at the weird, geographically nonsensical conferences in place scratching their heads. And that we're not far off from the top conferences banding together into a "Premier League" that negotiates a unified TV deal, maintains the historical conference brands as a stand in for divisions, and even reallocates some of the teams that have recently made crazy moves (like UCLA to the Big 10 and Stanford to the ACC) back to their historic homes. That'll make a ton more sense for non-revenue sports, travel, and TV game times for a lot of schools. Then they'll close off the playoff, and it won't matter what division MAC schools say they're playing in, cause they won't be competing with the top tier any more. Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 137 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 3:35:15 PM  If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,215 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 4:19:55 PM  College football is crap nowadays and not just because of NIL. OSU, loser of two games in 2025, not even the best in their conference or best on their side of the bracket gets a bye in not playing the conference championship, makes the playoffs, wins the national championship over a team that got smoked earlier by lowly MAC team, Northern Illinois. WE ARE NUMBER ONE yell the Columbus faithful. If the projections of the top dogs forming their own, I'd just stay put and wait for the fallout when teams like WVU, VT, Pitt don't get their green card and we join up to play with them in some division. If only the MAC schools didn't have their hands out for the revenue games then the big schools would have to schedule each other to play 12 games and then teams with 3 and 4 losses would be making their big boy playoffs--how exciting. Since it is ALL about the Benjamins, college football should follow a format like Ohio High School basketball and every team makes it. Then they could have kept the revenue coming in through July, just in time to start the next season. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 4:46:14 PM  STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 137 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 5:39:03 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/24/2025 8:41:20 PM  STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I think the mid-week contract should pay better when it's renewed. The deal they signed was way too long given how quickly the media market shifts these days. So next time it comes up, I'd expect better per-school numbers, though the numbers will still lag other conferences. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,629 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 11:10:21 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I think the mid-week contract should pay better when it's renewed. The deal they signed was way too long given how quickly the media market shifts these days. So next time it comes up, I'd expect better per-school numbers, though the numbers will still lag other conferences. I don’t think the midweek games make any sense now, if it ever really did. Every game is pretty much on somewhere and the loss of revenue not having weekend games is still significant. Some have made an issue that it helps recruiting. Empty stadiums helps recruiting? The MAC is moving to the bottom quickly and midweek games aren’t helping change that. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 11:59:47 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I think the mid-week contract should pay better when it's renewed. The deal they signed was way too long given how quickly the media market shifts these days. So next time it comes up, I'd expect better per-school numbers, though the numbers will still lag other conferences. I don’t think the midweek games make any sense now, if it ever really did. Every game is pretty much on somewhere and the loss of revenue not having weekend games is still significant. Some have made an issue that it helps recruiting. Empty stadiums helps recruiting? The MAC is moving to the bottom quickly and midweek games aren’t helping change that. I can see the case, but ultimately the TV deal is about ratings, and our ratings are dependent on not being on head-to-head against 10 better conferences. Additionally, the mid-week games only lose revenue for the handful of MAC teams that actually fill their stadiums. And even then, I'm not sure if more ticket sales will actually outstrip the likely increase in TV revenue. I suspect ESPN will only offer mid-week. What other value do we offer? And if it's not mid-week ESPN, who offers? Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 337 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 12:44:14 PM  STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. I don't disagree with you but the problem is virtually NO ONE else is offering a tv deal. Peacock and Amazon have zero interest. Maybe the CW but they've been running at a loss since they began. Turner? There won't be a TNT or TBS in five years. It's ESPN or using the local PBS stations for the MAC dude. Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 1,015 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 2:45:21 PM  Tymaster wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. I don't disagree with you but the problem is virtually NO ONE else is offering a tv deal. Peacock and Amazon have zero interest. Maybe the CW but they've been running at a loss since they began. Turner? There won't be a TNT or TBS in five years. It's ESPN or using the local PBS stations for the MAC dude. CBS? Could have some games on CBS, CBSSN, and they also have a deal with free over the air channel Ion for content, plus paramount plus. Ion is also owned by Scripps, so bit of an OU/MAC connection there. Back to Top Tymaster General User Member Since: 3/24/2017 Location: Chillicothe, OH Post Count: 337 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 3:42:30 PM  cbarber357 wrote: Tymaster wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. I don't disagree with you but the problem is virtually NO ONE else is offering a tv deal. Peacock and Amazon have zero interest. Maybe the CW but they've been running at a loss since they began. Turner? There won't be a TNT or TBS in five years. It's ESPN or using the local PBS stations for the MAC dude. CBS? Could have some games on CBS, CBSSN, and they also have a deal with free over the air channel Ion for content, plus paramount plus. Ion is also owned by Scripps, so bit of an OU/MAC connection there. That's completely conjecture though. So far as we know Paramount has made ZERO effort to grab the MAC.Also, if they were offering more money than ESPN, I have to imagine the MAC would take it. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,283 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 3:57:15 PM  Tymaster wrote: cbarber357 wrote: Tymaster wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. I don't disagree with you but the problem is virtually NO ONE else is offering a tv deal. Peacock and Amazon have zero interest. Maybe the CW but they've been running at a loss since they began. Turner? There won't be a TNT or TBS in five years. It's ESPN or using the local PBS stations for the MAC dude. CBS? Could have some games on CBS, CBSSN, and they also have a deal with free over the air channel Ion for content, plus paramount plus. Ion is also owned by Scripps, so bit of an OU/MAC connection there. That's completely conjecture though. So far as we know Paramount has made ZERO effort to grab the MAC.Also, if they were offering more money than ESPN, I have to imagine the MAC would take it. Until a new TV deal is signed who knows. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Fiami @ Peden with 25,086 fans 2023 10-7 near shutout of Iowa State @ Solich Field 2025 17-10 defeat of WVU @ Peden in front of 26,740 Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,187 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/25/2025 4:24:35 PM  cbarber357 wrote: Tymaster wrote: STVCastle wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: STVCastle wrote: If MAC leadership doesn't start providing any solutions, then they are part of the problem. The only way to fix said problem, in that case, is to get away from it altogether. The other G6 conferences don't have perfect situations, but they've clearly been more proactive than what the MAC has been for decades. It's really this simple for the MAC in the business sense: Adapt or die. What should the MAC be doing? It's a good question to ask. For one thing, try to find different ways to make more money. Mid-week MACtion just isn't the cash cow leadership thought it would be. ESPN+ does the MAC no favors. Ideally, I wish the MAC would just get away from ESPN and find a different media broadcast partner that's willing to give them Thursday/Friday nighttime slots instead of Tuesday/Wednesday nights. I don't have a complete answer as to what should the MAC be doing, but what they have been doing up to this point just hasn't worked. I don't disagree with you but the problem is virtually NO ONE else is offering a tv deal. Peacock and Amazon have zero interest. Maybe the CW but they've been running at a loss since they began. Turner? There won't be a TNT or TBS in five years. It's ESPN or using the local PBS stations for the MAC dude. CBS? Could have some games on CBS, CBSSN, and they also have a deal with free over the air channel Ion for content, plus paramount plus. Ion is also owned by Scripps, so bit of an OU/MAC connection there. CBS just signed the PAC Whatever, has the Big 10, and separate CBSSN deals for every Army and Navy game. Not sure when they'd actually air the MAC games. Army plays Noon, Navy at 3pm, and then the PAC is West Coast hours. Back to Top bobcat 2000 General User Member Since: 1/21/2006 Post Count: 225 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/26/2025 1:54:45 PM  ohio should definetly leave the mac. but the sunbelt is not the right conference. much better would be the big east, american or conference usa. those conferences are much better than the sunbelt. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,978 Status: Offline     RE: So you want to join a new conference?    Posted: 10/26/2025 2:04:15 PM  bobcat 2000 wrote: ohio should definetly leave the mac. but the sunbelt is not the right conference. much better would be the big east, american or conference usa. those conferences are much better than the sunbelt. You are crazy as a loon. Phil Steele in rating conferences in football rates the MAC next to last, with only C-USA lower. The Big East doesn't exist as football conference anymore. The American might be a slight improvement now, but they are losing members right and left. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. 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