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Bobcat1996
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   Posted: 8/20/2026 7:33:44 AM 
Seahawks news: Ex-Seattle RB somehow enters NCAA transfer portal after runs at SMU, UCLA appeared first on ClutchPoints. Add ClutchPoints as a Preferred Source by clicking here.

The NFL is witnessing a first among undrafted rookies and the NCAA. Already Tampa Bay Buccaneers edge rusher Jack Pyburn drifted into the College Football Transfer Portal Wednesday. Now Seattle Seahawks running back and former UCLA and SMU football star TJ Harden is following suit.

Harden is joining a new movement thanks to the newest NCAA fifth-year eligibility rule released in early August. College football insider for On3 Pete Nakos revealed Harden's intention to re-test the portal waters. Once again he joins Pyburn and others following a new Louisiana judge order on the fifth-year eligibility case.
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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 8:39:24 AM 
Very good chance we see this fall a team essentially signing a "free agent" midseason. They suffer some injuries and go and get a guy that was cut by an NFL team last week but only played 4 years in the NCAA.


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 9:25:29 AM 
At the same time NFL players are eligible for returning to NCAA roster limits are in place at 105 players. The net effect is going to push more talent down to smaller programs. Less roster spots for a player to transfer up to.


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 9:26:23 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Very good chance we see this fall a team essentially signing a "free agent" midseason. They suffer some injuries and go and get a guy that was cut by an NFL team last week but only played 4 years in the NCAA.


The team would have to remove the injured player from the 105 roster if they were going to do so.


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 10:49:06 AM 
Congress can and must act to stop this madness!

Also, I'm waiting for the IRS to revoke the non-profit status from a college that's running a pro-football team. First such school will probably be a private college. Watch out Notre Dame!

And, some accrediting agencies might start pulling accreditation from schools that make a farce of athletes actually paying any attention to academics.

The implications of all of this wild-west football are yet to be realized.



Last Edited: 8/20/2026 2:38:45 PM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 12:45:57 PM 
Athens wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Very good chance we see this fall a team essentially signing a "free agent" midseason. They suffer some injuries and go and get a guy that was cut by an NFL team last week but only played 4 years in the NCAA.


The team would have to remove the injured player from the 105 roster if they were going to do so.



Unless they are carrying a roster of 104 at the time thru someone recently quitting or something, or they just didn't use each spot from the beginning.


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 4:43:43 PM 
*Sniff, sniff*

Smells like NFL2 and minor league systems on the horizon. Top 32 teams from FBS break off and form their own minor league and feeder system into the NFL. The rest of the FBS and FCS gets chopped up and feeds up to NFL2, etc. etc. etc. Player transactions happen all the time with no set calendar, getting called up or being sent down on a random Tuesday and playing for your new team by that same weekend. High schoolers are treated more like baseball prospects.



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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/20/2026 7:23:07 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
*Sniff, sniff*

Smells like NFL2 and minor league systems on the horizon. Top 32 teams from FBS break off and form their own minor league and feeder system into the NFL. The rest of the FBS and FCS gets chopped up and feeds up to NFL2, etc. etc. etc. Player transactions happen all the time with no set calendar, getting called up or being sent down on a random Tuesday and playing for your new team by that same weekend. High schoolers are treated more like baseball prospects.


In case you've been missing the news there is a congressional bill in the works that would prevent the scenario above.

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Ban on conference mergers. Bans conferences with annual revenues of over $700 million from consolidating or acquiring other conferences’ assets unless the number of institutions in the new conference created includes at least 75% of the FBS membership, or if the new conference does not exceed 19 schools. Prohibits any entity (including private equity entities) from consolidating assets/media rights of a Power 4 school for the purpose of creating a new
conference.
https://www.knightcommission.org/wp-content/uploads/Knigh...


This hasn't passed yet but its a pivot away from the idea there will someday be a small group splitting away. Also in that legislation is that any coaching compensation above $500k for an individual coach must come directly from athletic department revenues or donations if the athletic department budget is over $80 million.


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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/21/2026 12:59:17 PM 
Athens wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
*Sniff, sniff*

Smells like NFL2 and minor league systems on the horizon. Top 32 teams from FBS break off and form their own minor league and feeder system into the NFL. The rest of the FBS and FCS gets chopped up and feeds up to NFL2, etc. etc. etc. Player transactions happen all the time with no set calendar, getting called up or being sent down on a random Tuesday and playing for your new team by that same weekend. High schoolers are treated more like baseball prospects.


In case you've been missing the news there is a congressional bill in the works that would prevent the scenario above.

Quote:

Ban on conference mergers. Bans conferences with annual revenues of over $700 million from consolidating or acquiring other conferences’ assets unless the number of institutions in the new conference created includes at least 75% of the FBS membership, or if the new conference does not exceed 19 schools. Prohibits any entity (including private equity entities) from consolidating assets/media rights of a Power 4 school for the purpose of creating a new
conference.
https://www.knightcommission.org/wp-content/uploads/Knigh...


This hasn't passed yet but its a pivot away from the idea there will someday be a small group splitting away. Also in that legislation is that any coaching compensation above $500k for an individual coach must come directly from athletic department revenues or donations if the athletic department budget is over $80 million.


I've been following this and I'll just say I'll believe it when I don't see it. This says nothing about individual schools deciding if they wanted to break away and do their own thing. All of this realignment isn't being controlled by the schools and conferences anyway, as ESPN and FOX are pulling the strings in the background. They're the ones who would start something.
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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/21/2026 6:00:18 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Athens wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
*Sniff, sniff*

Smells like NFL2 and minor league systems on the horizon. Top 32 teams from FBS break off and form their own minor league and feeder system into the NFL. The rest of the FBS and FCS gets chopped up and feeds up to NFL2, etc. etc. etc. Player transactions happen all the time with no set calendar, getting called up or being sent down on a random Tuesday and playing for your new team by that same weekend. High schoolers are treated more like baseball prospects.


In case you've been missing the news there is a congressional bill in the works that would prevent the scenario above.

Quote:

Ban on conference mergers. Bans conferences with annual revenues of over $700 million from consolidating or acquiring other conferences’ assets unless the number of institutions in the new conference created includes at least 75% of the FBS membership, or if the new conference does not exceed 19 schools. Prohibits any entity (including private equity entities) from consolidating assets/media rights of a Power 4 school for the purpose of creating a new
conference.
https://www.knightcommission.org/wp-content/uploads/Knigh...


This hasn't passed yet but its a pivot away from the idea there will someday be a small group splitting away. Also in that legislation is that any coaching compensation above $500k for an individual coach must come directly from athletic department revenues or donations if the athletic department budget is over $80 million.


I've been following this and I'll just say I'll believe it when I don't see it. This says nothing about individual schools deciding if they wanted to break away and do their own thing. All of this realignment isn't being controlled by the schools and conferences anyway, as ESPN and FOX are pulling the strings in the background. They're the ones who would start something.


It says no entity can cherry pick individual schools to create a superconference. The SEC and Big Ten had a heavy hand in developing this legislation with increasing input from the ACC and Big 12. I would put the odds at this passing at 90%. A 32 super conference I'd have set at 0.1% because if its not this bill it will be something else next year and a 32 team super confernce even if the conferences decided to stop working together would be quite radical change. College football has always been incremental change historically.


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2025 17-10 defeat of WVU @ Peden in front of 26,740

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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/21/2026 6:27:35 PM 
NFL to NCAA? Courtroom chaos Is giving pro athletes a bizarre path back to college, and it's only just begun
A Louisiana judge opened a makeshift transfer portal for seven days as lawsuits pile up against the NCAA nationwide
By Trey Wallace OutKick

This situation is only going to explode. It is not going away. The lawsuits/appeals will go on for months.

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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/22/2026 10:22:11 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Congress can and must act to stop this madness!

Also, I'm waiting for the IRS to revoke the non-profit status from a college that's running a pro-football team. First such school will probably be a private college. Watch out Notre Dame!

And, some accrediting agencies might start pulling accreditation from schools that make a farce of athletes actually paying any attention to academics.

The implications of all of this wild-west football are yet to be realized.





NO one is going to have their accreditation pulled. The sky is not falling.
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  Message Not Read  RE: When will this end?
   Posted: 8/25/2026 8:09:45 PM 
The SEC and Big Ten have no to this nonsense. Look for the ACC, Big 12 and Notre Dame to follow suit.
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   Posted: 8/25/2026 8:29:46 PM 
SEC draws rule to stop NFL, NBA, WNBA players from returning
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.
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   Posted: 8/26/2026 12:08:07 AM 
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


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   Posted: 8/26/2026 8:20:27 AM 
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


It would be up to the individual states I suppose. I can't see any of the states housing a Big 10 school allowing or WV because Rich went on a rant about it last night.
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   Posted: 8/26/2026 9:30:21 AM 
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


It would be up to the individual states I suppose. I can't see any of the states housing a Big 10 school allowing or WV because Rich went on a rant about it last night.


To the extent that it becomes an issue it's a national issue involving restraint of free trade.


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   Posted: 8/26/2026 10:18:39 AM 
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


I'm actually somewhat impressed they went the full mile on this. When I first heard it I 100% suspected it was legalese and mostly posturing - if you made an NFL regular season roster, you can't come back. BUT the Big 10 actually said "on a professional roster at any point". Which covers UDFA, 90-man preseason roster, practice squad, etc. The likely exception is a rookie-minicamp tryout without signing anything official.

Where it gets interesting... with the Big 10 and SEC saying NO. Does the ACC, Big 12, maybe even the G5's down here, say... we'll take you, come on down. A little competitive edge?

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   Posted: 8/26/2026 4:02:44 PM 
The NFL will inform its clubs that any player who returns to the college ranks will be prohibited from signing with an NFL team this season, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The league plans to provide this clarity to clubs at some point Wednesday, sources told Schefter, reiterating rules that remain unaltered despite a chaotic week in the NCAA as multiple players seek a fifth year of college eligibility.



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OhioCatFan wrote:
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


It would be up to the individual states I suppose. I can't see any of the states housing a Big 10 school allowing or WV because Rich went on a rant about it last night.


To the extent that it becomes an issue it's a national issue involving restraint of free trade.


At what point does "student" enter the equation?
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M.D.W.S.T wrote:
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Bobcat1996 wrote:
SEC draws rule to stop NFL, NBA, WNBA players from returning
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


I'm actually somewhat impressed they went the full mile on this. When I first heard it I 100% suspected it was legalese and mostly posturing - if you made an NFL regular season roster, you can't come back. BUT the Big 10 actually said "on a professional roster at any point". Which covers UDFA, 90-man preseason roster, practice squad, etc. The likely exception is a rookie-minicamp tryout without signing anything official.

Where it gets interesting... with the Big 10 and SEC saying NO. Does the ACC, Big 12, maybe even the G5's down here, say... we'll take you, come on down. A little competitive edge?


The Big 12 and ACC ADs voted to ban professionals.

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   Posted: 8/26/2026 7:49:40 PM 
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SEC schools that bring back NFL, NBA or WNBA players to their programs will face steep discipline under a new policy unanimously approved by the conference's 16 members, sources confirmed to ESPN on Wednesday.

The penalties include a half-season suspension for a coach, a fine that matches 50% of the sport's annual budget and revocation of league voting rights, sources confirmed.

The soap opera continues and it will not end soon. College football is not the only sport involved in this mess.

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   Posted: 8/26/2026 11:36:38 PM 

My favorite AI Bot says this may get more crazy as appeals are in the works. 

NFL Players and the SEC Ruling

Several NFL players are currently appealing the SEC ruling that prohibits them from returning to college football. This appeal follows a series of legal battles regarding eligibility, particularly in light of recent court decisions that have allowed some players to pursue a fifth year of eligibility.

Background on the Ruling

  • The SEC has implemented a ban on professional athletes returning to college sports, which includes strict penalties for member schools that violate this policy.
  • This ruling was influenced by cases like that of Dae'Quan Wright, who sought to return to LSU after signing with the Cleveland Browns.

Legal Context

  • The appeals are part of a broader legal landscape where many players are challenging the NCAA's eligibility rules.
  • Recent court rulings have favored players seeking additional eligibility, leading to confusion and legal disputes within college sports.

The outcome of these appeals could significantly impact the eligibility landscape for college football and the future of professional athletes wishing to return to collegiate competition.

Given the high stakes for the athletes' careers and the broader implications for NCAA eligibility rules, an emergency application is a likely next step. Because the eligibility window for a collegiate season is so narrow, parties often use the Circuit Justice to seek a stay or a temporary injunction to prevent "irreparable harm"—in this case, missing an entire season of play while the slower, standard appellate process unfolds.


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   Posted: 8/27/2026 9:39:15 AM 
OLineGuy74 wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
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SEC draws rule to stop NFL, NBA, WNBA players from returning
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Hours after the Big Ten passed a rule stopping players returning from the NFL from playing for one of its schools, the SEC followed suit.

At the conclusion of meetings with league presidents, chancellors and athletic directors Tuesday, the conference announced a strict policy on the matter, releasing details across its social media channels. Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that the vote to implement the policy was 16-0.


Which court will be the first to issue an injunction against these rules? At least that's the way things have been going recently. One of the players involved will have to go to court, but that seems not an unlikely prospect at this point.


I'm actually somewhat impressed they went the full mile on this. When I first heard it I 100% suspected it was legalese and mostly posturing - if you made an NFL regular season roster, you can't come back. BUT the Big 10 actually said "on a professional roster at any point". Which covers UDFA, 90-man preseason roster, practice squad, etc. The likely exception is a rookie-minicamp tryout without signing anything official.

Where it gets interesting... with the Big 10 and SEC saying NO. Does the ACC, Big 12, maybe even the G5's down here, say... we'll take you, come on down. A little competitive edge?


The Big 12 and ACC ADs voted to ban professionals.


ACC still reviewing.

Though Andy Staples is making an argument that the P5 collectively bans - while the G6 should open the door.

"A scenario thrown out by Andy Staples on the Andy and Ari Show podcast. Get the Group of Six involved.

The biggest reason the lawsuits being brought are winning is due to the restriction of a person’s rights to make a living. If I cannot go there, I cannot go anywhere to do it. Well, if the Group of Six schools are willing to take these players, and they should, the returning athletes do have a place to apply their craft. There is no longer a barrier to entry for them returning to college football, and judges can no longer decide that the students are not able to play.

This is a logical argument and an argument which can work in most states. This would also help the Group of Six schools compete better. Especially those who are on the verge of a playoff run this season. Schools like Boise State, Memphis or UNLV can add a player who can take them over the mountain top."

Interesting.
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