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I really feel like (with) our culture and the players we have, we'll fight." - Tim Albin's quote at yesterday's Kent State post-game press conference. Albin's dillusional post-game 'culture' statement shows just how out-of-touch with reality he really is. I was able to get to Peden yesterday, then chose to sit near the OU sideline to watch not only the game, but also Albin's commandry of the ill-fated Bobcat Titanic. The good news - coaches Germano, Collins, Smith and Faanes were seen intently huddled with their troops between every series trying to make as-needed adjustments. The bad news - the vast majority of everyone else on the sideline seemed disjointed and apathetic as, once again, the officer's in charge found a play style that didn't work well against our opponent, married it anyway, then stayed with its morale-killing spirit way too long. Frank arrived on the sideline scene in an aggitated state somewhere in the third quarter. By midway in the fourth, he had quietly conformed to the dejected body posturing that had, many games ago, infected the consensus of the team. Maybe Frank's irritation had nothing to do with Albin & the OCs lack of insight. Maybe the expletives he was mouthing had nothing to do with the blatant mismanagement of the clock. Maybe Frank's silent internal screams (yet still outwardly visable) had nothing to do with the unhinged and incoherent yelling of the Receiver's Coach Dwayne Dixon that occurred EVERY DEFENSIVE series. (Yes - you read that correctly - when given the opportunity to coach his receivers after blown-up routes, drops or strips, this dude figures his best team input is to yell "DOOO YOUR JOOOB!!" at our defense who isn't paying attention to him. Nevermind the fact he looks like a geratric runaway screaming nonsensicals at passing cars outside his rest home - but there are NO receivers on DEFENSE coach! Please toss your sharpee and army helmet to the side Sir, pull it together and coach your receivers!! Incidentally, the season ticket holders sitting beside me chuckled after I muttered a jaw-dropped "wtf?!" to which they informed me that it's what Dixon does EVERY game; a point that further indicts Albin's assumption of a positive 'culture'. Coach Dixon, if you are reading this, please do your team a favor and DOOO YOUR JOOOB!) Regardless - I'd like to report that the positive culture Albin alluded to in his press conference is Alive and Well - the problem is, I can't - because IT'S NOT! His misconstrued idea of 'team culture' is an imaginary cabin created for himself with a sign on the front porch stating, "No Student-Athletes Beyond This Point". Unfortunately, my observations from this weekend only support the theory that Albin needs to pack up some of his first mates, take one of the lifeboats and paddle it somewhere else - ANYWHERE ELSE - just not here. With all that said, I DO believe Albin got one thing right in his post-game statement - his players WILLINGNESS to fight - but, after this game, I'm nearly certain that neither him, his OC duo or coaches like Dixon can provide the inspiration for them to perform a WINNING fight. Becoming a winning team starts with a winning culture, and a winning culture has to start with Albin. AND ... it also has to be legit. Unfortunately, his lack of awareness of his own inadequacies - and that of some of his coaches, won't allow his players to ever enjoy the type of culture he unfortunately thinks already exists within his program Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 672 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/24/2021 11:22:51 PM  I couldn't have said it better. Totally agree. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/24/2021 11:38:20 PM  Guys. C'mon. They're only losing by 7 points or less. If that's not inspiring .... Well, I'm not sure what you could possibly want! In all seriousness, none of what you typed out surprises me. The titanic reference is spot on. This is only going to get worse before it gets better. And it will NEVER get better with Awful Albin at the helm. Terrible Tim isn't cut out for this. Sadly, no one that matters has $550k+ to end this nightmare. So let the countdown to 12/31/22 continue Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,065 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/24/2021 11:46:44 PM  SEOHSports made some interesting observations, particularly about how Frank was reacting, based on his body language. And, I've always found Frank a man who is easy to read. His facial expressions usually say more than his words. If these interpretations are correct, and I would bet that they are, Frank is not going to let the program he built be ruined. He'll take some action. He has the clout and resources to do it. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,278 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 7:06:03 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: SEOHSports made some interesting observations, particularly about how Frank was reacting, based on his body language. And, I've always found Frank a man who is easy to read. His facial expressions usually say more than his words. If these interpretations are correct, and I would bet that they are, Frank is not going to let the program he built be ruined. He'll take some action. He has the clout and resources to do it. You do realize that Frank is partially to blame here right? He obviously had zero interest in bringing along a replacement-in-waiting or he would have done that with a young up-and-comer. He obviously retired late and pushed for Albin to get the job. Frank will go down as one of the greatest coaches in OU history and perhaps MAC history but the dude screwed the pooch on the way he left this program. I don't care what his body language is or how disappointed he looks. He joined Cromer in doing this to our program so I'd rather he just sit in a skybox and think about ways to fix it (get donors or donate part of his huge salary). Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,688 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 9:14:46 AM  I would like to have someone shadow many of you at work and then report on it. That might be interesting reading. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 9:28:07 AM  giacomo wrote: I would like to have someone shadow many of you at work and then report on it. That might be interesting reading. This is a laughably bad analogy. When you sign up to be a Division One college football (or basketball) coach ... and make upwards of $500k/year ... you know the life you're signing up for. That's like Matt Damon whining he can't go to the grocery store without someone recognizing him. Tough s**t. It comes with the territory. We're not degrading Tim Albin the man, the husband, the father, etc. This is all about Tim Albin the football coach. If you can't see that, you might need to readjust your reality. He's making $1.1M guaranteed for running a pretty reputable program into the ground. And as others have pointed out, he's managed to do a lot of it in about 12 weeks. C'mon. Get out of here with that self-righteous B.S. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,582 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 9:32:09 AM  We’re not even through the first season of a new head coach and everything is ruined??? Give me a break. There are a lot of Ohio fans who have simply been spoiled by all the sustained success that this program has had over the past decade - and still complained about this program while and when it was winning - and in the first season of adversity, people are wanting to already run the new head coach off? And let’s not kid ourselves, if Frank was still coaching this season, many of these same people would be calling for him to be removed after this season due to this one season too. I have very much appreciated every bit of the success this program has had in the last decade (which many of our MAC peers would love to try and duplicate) and this team is still competing now despite the record. I understand the disappointment of the record this season coming off the heels of the last decade of success, but some people really need to get a grip. This team hasn’t quit unlike many “fans” on here have, they keep fighting. But you know what, many Ohio fans have been spoiled and are finally getting a taste of what a lot of programs face on a yearly basis. Maybe some of these fans are getting what they deserve through all of this, a bitter taste of reality. Because if this doesn’t make those people appreciate this program, then maybe nothing will. I get annoyed seeing so many players at schools all over the county leave schools nowadays at the first signs of adversity. The bottom line is a lot of fans aren’t much different. They want success but don’t appreciate it even when they have it, and want to run or start everything all over when adversity hits. It’s sad. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,840 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 10:17:05 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: SEOHSports made some interesting observations, particularly about how Frank was reacting, based on his body language. And, I've always found Frank a man who is easy to read. His facial expressions usually say more than his words. If these interpretations are correct, and I would bet that they are, Frank is not going to let the program he built be ruined. He'll take some action. He has the clout and resources to do it. You do realize that Frank is partially to blame here right? He obviously had zero interest in bringing along a replacement-in-waiting or he would have done that with a young up-and-comer. He obviously retired late and pushed for Albin to get the job. Frank will go down as one of the greatest coaches in OU history and perhaps MAC history but the dude screwed the pooch on the way he left this program. I don't care what his body language is or how disappointed he looks. He joined Cromer in doing this to our program so I'd rather he just sit in a skybox and think about ways to fix it (get donors or donate part of his huge salary). Truth. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,337 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 10:31:13 AM  SBH wrote: Bobcat1998 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: SEOHSports made some interesting observations, particularly about how Frank was reacting, based on his body language. And, I've always found Frank a man who is easy to read. His facial expressions usually say more than his words. If these interpretations are correct, and I would bet that they are, Frank is not going to let the program he built be ruined. He'll take some action. He has the clout and resources to do it. You do realize that Frank is partially to blame here right? He obviously had zero interest in bringing along a replacement-in-waiting or he would have done that with a young up-and-comer. He obviously retired late and pushed for Albin to get the job. Frank will go down as one of the greatest coaches in OU history and perhaps MAC history but the dude screwed the pooch on the way he left this program. I don't care what his body language is or how disappointed he looks. He joined Cromer in doing this to our program so I'd rather he just sit in a skybox and think about ways to fix it (get donors or donate part of his huge salary). Truth. Absolutely agree. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 672 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 10:43:16 AM  I am old enough to remember when there was serious talk in the Seventies after enrollment dropped significantly at the end of the Vietnam War about dropping the football program altogether, and we had the highly regarded and beloved Coach Bill Hess at the helm then. The arrival of Grobe and then Solich seemed to make a whole new commitment and infusion into a program that had been a National embarrassment throughout the eighties. All of the talk of stability within the program throughout Frank's tenure seemed to support the idea that something would be left in place after he retired, which seemed to justify not only his salary, but the tremendous amount of resources being channeled into the program itself (much to the chagrin of many on the Academic side at Ohio). This is especially poignant now that the University is facing a huge financial crisis in the wake of the recent Pandemic. I think that part of the frustration here is how undisciplined, unfocused, and how inconsistent the team has become without Frank leading the program. Albin and his nervous, goofy, and clownish demeanor does not instill much confidence in the fan base. It's sad when his players at the press conference seem more confident and articulate than the coach himself. Add this to the stupidity of cowboy hats and a throne on the sidelines and what is being witnessed by fans is more of a joke than an inspiring part of the Ohio experience. Winning, of course, would minimize the negative scrutiny of this program, which is now even under more of a microscope than ever considering the current financial pressures and restraints at Ohio University. While the MAC is considered the cradle of coaching, Ohio seems to become the Graveyard of such at this time. It's hard to imagine who would want to hire Albin and his staff outside of Ohio. Likewise, it is hard to imagine who would want to come to Ohio and play for this Staff. Therefore, it will be interesting to see how recruiting goes this year, and how many of the players stay at Ohio vs. Entering into the transfer portal. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,065 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 10:51:57 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: SEOHSports made some interesting observations, particularly about how Frank was reacting, based on his body language. And, I've always found Frank a man who is easy to read. His facial expressions usually say more than his words. If these interpretations are correct, and I would bet that they are, Frank is not going to let the program he built be ruined. He'll take some action. He has the clout and resources to do it. You do realize that Frank is partially to blame here right? He obviously had zero interest in bringing along a replacement-in-waiting or he would have done that with a young up-and-comer. He obviously retired late and pushed for Albin to get the job. Frank will go down as one of the greatest coaches in OU history and perhaps MAC history but the dude screwed the pooch on the way he left this program. I don't care what his body language is or how disappointed he looks. He joined Cromer in doing this to our program so I'd rather he just sit in a skybox and think about ways to fix it (get donors or donate part of his huge salary). Of course, I realize that. It's human to make mistakes. What matters is making the corrective action when you see you've made a mistake. Frank apparently misjudged Albin's aptitude for being a head coach. In my career I made mistakes in assigning people to jobs and hiring people for specific positions. I remember one situation where I replaced a competent person, who had some annoying quirks, with a totally incompetent person who interviewed well. So, Frank misjudged Albin's head coaching ability. While an error, I don't think it's a mortal sin. Lack of action from the AD now that the situation is clear would be an unforgivable sin (in a non-theological sense). Fire Albin ASAP! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,346 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 11:00:09 AM  OhioBobcat wrote: We’re not even through the first season of a new head coach and everything is ruined??? Give me a break. There are a lot of Ohio fans who have simply been spoiled by all the sustained success that this program has had over the past decade - and still complained about this program while and when it was winning - and in the first season of adversity, people are wanting to already run the new head coach off? And let’s not kid ourselves, if Frank was still coaching this season, many of these same people would be calling for him to be removed after this season due to this one season too. I have very much appreciated every bit of the success this program has had in the last decade (which many of our MAC peers would love to try and duplicate) and this team is still competing now despite the record. I understand the disappointment of the record this season coming off the heels of the last decade of success, but some people really need to get a grip. This team hasn’t quit unlike many “fans” on here have, they keep fighting. But you know what, many Ohio fans have been spoiled and are finally getting a taste of what a lot of programs face on a yearly basis. Maybe some of these fans are getting what they deserve through all of this, a bitter taste of reality. Because if this doesn’t make those people appreciate this program, then maybe nothing will. I get annoyed seeing so many players at schools all over the county leave schools nowadays at the first signs of adversity. The bottom line is a lot of fans aren’t much different. They want success but don’t appreciate it even when they have it, and want to run or start everything all over when adversity hits. It’s sad. What exactly did we accomplish under Frank? He deserves all the credit in the world for getting this program out of the gutter, upgrading facilities, and raising the standards. But let's not kid ourselves, aside from a small handful of P5 and low level bowl wins, this program plateaued and couldn't take the next step. We lost to our rival in the only game we played as a ranked team. In the meantime, NIU goes to the Orange Bowl, WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl and gets Gameday to come to Kalamazoo. Every year, multiple MAC teams get 15-20 solid verbal commits before the season begins. I wouldn't trade our last 15 years for Miami's, but they at least have two conference championships in that time. There is absolutely nothing the NIU, WMU, and Toledos have accomplished that can't be done at Ohio. It's perfectly fair to be thankful for the level of success we experienced and also expect to ascend to the next step. Last Edited: 10/25/2021 11:13:43 AM by shabamon Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,991 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 11:06:40 AM  shabamon wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: We’re not even through the first season of a new head coach and everything is ruined??? Give me a break. There are a lot of Ohio fans who have simply been spoiled by all the sustained success that this program has had over the past decade - and still complained about this program while and when it was winning - and in the first season of adversity, people are wanting to already run the new head coach off? And let’s not kid ourselves, if Frank was still coaching this season, many of these same people would be calling for him to be removed after this season due to this one season too. I have very much appreciated every bit of the success this program has had in the last decade (which many of our MAC peers would love to try and duplicate) and this team is still competing now despite the record. I understand the disappointment of the record this season coming off the heels of the last decade of success, but some people really need to get a grip. This team hasn’t quit unlike many “fans” on here have, they keep fighting. But you know what, many Ohio fans have been spoiled and are finally getting a taste of what a lot of programs face on a yearly basis. Maybe some of these fans are getting what they deserve through all of this, a bitter taste of reality. Because if this doesn’t make those people appreciate this program, then maybe nothing will. I get annoyed seeing so many players at schools all over the county leave schools nowadays at the first signs of adversity. The bottom line is a lot of fans aren’t much different. They want success but don’t appreciate it even when they have it, and want to run or start everything all over when adversity hits. It’s sad. What exactly did we accomplish under Frank? He deserves all the credit in the world for getting this program out of the gutter, upgrading facilities, and raising the standards. But let's not kid ourselves, aside from a small handful of P5 and low level bowl wins, this program plateaued and couldn't take the next step. In the meantime, NIU goes to the Orange Bowl, WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl and gets Gameday to come to Kalamazoo. Every year, multiple MAC teams get 15-20 solid verbal commits before the season begins. I wouldn't trade our last 15 years for Miami's, but they at least have two conference championships in that time. There is absolutely nothing the NIU, WMU, and Toledos have accomplished that can't be done at Ohio. It's perfectly fair to be thankful for the level of success we experienced and also expect to ascend to the next step. +1 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,337 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 11:10:53 AM  shabamon wrote: What exactly did we accomplish under Frank? He deserves all the credit in the world for getting this program out of the gutter, upgrading facilities, and raising the standards. But let's not kid ourselves, aside from a small handful of P5 and low level bowl wins, this program plateaued and couldn't take the next step. In the meantime, NIU goes to the Orange Bowl, WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl and gets Gameday to come to Kalamazoo. Every year, multiple MAC teams get 15-20 solid verbal commits before the season begins. I wouldn't trade our last 15 years for Miami's, but they at least have two conference championships in that time. There is absolutely nothing the NIU, WMU, and Toledos have accomplished that can't be done at Ohio. It's perfectly fair to be thankful for the level of success we experienced and also expect to ascend to the next step. Also 100% Agree. Being happy with the progress for sure, but realize Ohio average 5-3 in the MAC for ten years in a row, never winning the conference. This from 2010-2019. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,346 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 11:12:39 AM  Each year under Solich that was .500 or worse, there were still redeeming qualities or silver linings. 2005: First year under new regime. Not all that talented, but at least played with a noticeable effort and attitude. Home win vs Pitt. 2007: Bad defensive team, but ridiculously skilled and entertaining on offense. Still bowl-eligible. 2008: Started 0-4, but within one score of good CMU and Northwestern teams. Led Ohio State in the fourth quarter. Horrific injury luck. 2014: Bowl eligible despite an obvious rebuild season. Winning at Kent in the opener with a new quarterback and multiple true freshmen starting on the O-line ranks in my top 10 favorite Ohio football wins. You're dreaming if you think anything this season approaches any of these four seasons. Even Knorr had a win at Kentucky. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,065 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 11:20:41 AM  shabamon wrote: Each year under Solich that was .500 or worse, there were still redeeming qualities or silver linings. 2005: First year under new regime. Not all that talented, but at least played with a noticeable effort and attitude. Home win vs Pitt. 2007: Bad defensive team, but ridiculously skilled and entertaining on offense. Still bowl-eligible. 2008: Started 0-4, but within one score of good CMU and Northwestern teams. Led Ohio State in the fourth quarter. Horrific injury luck. 2014: Bowl eligible despite an obvious rebuild season. Winning at Kent in the opener with a new quarterback and multiple true freshmen starting on the O-line ranks in my top 10 favorite Ohio football wins. You're dreaming if you think anything this season approaches any of these four seasons. Even Knorr had a win at Kentucky. Good posts. Yes, as I said in another post, Albin is not Knorr 2.0, that sullies Knorr's reputation. He's Cleve/Tom 2.0. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Valley Cat General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Location: Jackson Twp., OH Post Count: 1,140 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 12:11:15 PM  Buckner enters the portal. Tragic in my opinion. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,346 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 12:21:05 PM  We now have more players in the portal than verbal commitments. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,208 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 1:29:40 PM  giacomo wrote: I would like to have someone shadow many of you at work and then report on it. That might be interesting reading. I had someone shadowing me at work for 45 years. Someone called The Boss. (No, not Springsteen or Steinbrenner.) Albin (the coach) has a high-profile position who gets paid more than the University's president. He should be held accountable and be open to public criticism and critiquing. That's part of the job. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,278 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 2:19:55 PM  Pataskala wrote: giacomo wrote: I would like to have someone shadow many of you at work and then report on it. That might be interesting reading. I had someone shadowing me at work for 45 years. Someone called The Boss. (No, not Springsteen or Steinbrenner.) Albin (the coach) has a high-profile position who gets paid more than the University's president. He should be held accountable and be open to public criticism and critiquing. That's part of the job. I agree 100 percent. How anyone can defend Albin by saying that he should not be under scrutiny as someone who makes 500 grand a year as a public figure is laughable or a family member of Albin. I consider us a solid mid-major job and it was outright given to a dude who joined with Frank to produce one of the most vanilla offenses in college football the past 17 years. If I made 500 grand a year I would WELCOME a message board because I would work my butt off to serve those people who are passionate enough to post on it. If I did not succeed I would tender my own resignation and hope that someone would replace me who deserves to lead this program. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,065 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 2:24:18 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: Pataskala wrote: giacomo wrote: I would like to have someone shadow many of you at work and then report on it. That might be interesting reading. I had someone shadowing me at work for 45 years. Someone called The Boss. (No, not Springsteen or Steinbrenner.) Albin (the coach) has a high-profile position who gets paid more than the University's president. He should be held accountable and be open to public criticism and critiquing. That's part of the job. I agree 100 percent. How anyone can defend Albin by saying that he should not be under scrutiny as someone who makes 500 grand a year as a public figure is laughable or a family member of Albin. I consider us a solid mid-major job and it was outright given to a dude who joined with Frank to produce one of the most vanilla offenses in college football the past 17 years. If I made 500 grand a year I would WELCOME a message board because I would work my butt off to serve those people who are passionate enough to post on it. If I did not succeed I would tender my own resignation and hope that someone would replace me who deserves to lead this program. +1000 The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top RufusCat09 General User Member Since: 12/14/2019 Post Count: 718 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 3:41:11 PM  shabamon wrote: We now have more players in the portal than verbal commitments. Wait that's a bad thing? haha A perfect storm is brewing to have an awful recruiting class...I hope I'm wrong but it's hard to be optimistic. New head coach who seems out of touch to reality...team is 1-7 and one of the worst in FBS...only 1 commit as of end of October... Buckle up everyone. I'm just hoping we don't lose too many to the portal or else they will having to start asking people around campus to play next year. Last Edited: 10/25/2021 3:42:54 PM by RufusCat09 Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,343 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 5:02:32 PM  Many, many valid points and counterpoints here but I’ll take issue with only one from our friend “OhioBobcat”; “Ohio fans spoiled by success…”? Who are these fans and how do they measure success? I haven’t seen it. I am not spoiled,.If we had become a perennial champion WITH student buy-in and a thriving fan base that fed money into the athletic department - maybe. What we had was a minor rejuvenation driven by a personality cult (Got Frank?) that proved to be mad fun for a while. Steelers fans are spoiled by success. Yankees fans are spoiled by success. Ohio fans are not spoiled by success. All of which means, we have no fan capital here to waste. The bandwagon is empty already. A perpetual ESPN Bottom 10 spot is just around the corner if this doesn’t get fixed fast. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,991 Status: Offline     RE: Really? A Positive Team Culture??    Posted: 10/25/2021 5:11:00 PM  Bobcatbob wrote: Many, many valid points and counterpoints here but I’ll take issue with only one from our friend “OhioBobcat”; “Ohio fans spoiled by success…”? Who are these fans and how do they measure success? I haven’t seen it. I am not spoiled,.If we had become a perennial champion WITH student buy-in and a thriving fan base that fed money into the athletic department - maybe. What we had was a minor rejuvenation driven by a personality cult (Got Frank?) that proved to be mad fun for a while. Steelers fans are spoiled by success. Yankees fans are spoiled by success. Ohio fans are not spoiled by success. All of which means, we have no fan capital here to waste. The bandwagon is empty already. A perpetual ESPN Bottom 10 spot is just around the corner if this doesn’t get fixed fast. Just because I was curious and you mentioned ESPN, which made me think of the "Next Boise" article in 2012. After starting 2012 7-0 and being ranked for the first time in the polls at #23, Ohio lost immediately to Miami. 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