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bobcatsquared
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 10:56:29 AM 
* Open at home v. Syracuse. Coach Dino Babers, after the Orange lost to ND Saturday, said there are a lot of players on Syracuse's defense that can't compete with him in the weight room, even though he is almost 60 years old. He said they have to get stronger over the next nine months and they will be very good. The NBC announcer mentioned Ohio during Saturday's broadcast when a Syracuse player was ejected in the second half for an illegal hit, saying he'll have to also miss the first half of their opener at Ohio.

* At Lousiana. I sat behind this team's sideline last fall at Peden and was impressed with the size and athleticism of its players. Typically, teams at this level get players that are either big but not athletic or athletic but not big. Rarely do they get players that combine both but the Cajuns have several players of this nature. And they've been in the top 25 most of 2020.

* At Northwestern, who has clinched the big 10 west after a lousy 2019.

I think Ohio should be better next year. They're going to have to be with these early challenges. The schedules for the following years only get more ambitious.

Last Edited: 12/7/2020 10:58:19 AM by bobcatsquared
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 12:03:29 PM 
I think that Rourke has to both have confidence as a runner and stay healthy.
Otherwise, our .500 or better streak could easily end next year. I wonder if his non-throwing shoulder is now an Achilles Heel with his health.

Last Edited: 12/7/2020 7:52:30 PM by Victory
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 12:34:24 PM 
Are we going to add a 4th opponent the week of 9/11?

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   Posted: 12/7/2020 12:46:18 PM 
According fbsschedules.com, we have Gardner-Webb with the date TBA.

Don't expect Dino Babers to be with Syracuse when they come calling next year. With one winning season out of the five he's been there and a 1-10 record this season, he'll probably get the ax before the end of the month. He's 24-36 overall and 13-29 in the ACC.

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   Posted: 12/7/2020 12:47:29 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Are we going to add a 4th opponent the week of 9/11?


It should be a FCS school and, apparently, as of now, it is Garner-Webb but they have a game at UNC-Charlotte on 9/11. Our game date is TBA. I'm sure Ohio would like to have an FCS opponent on 9/11. Maybe we are trying to rearrange things so that is possible.
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 1:33:16 PM 
Every other MAC team has a non-conference game on 9/11, so unless Gardner Webb agrees to some movement, that could end up a bye week.
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 2:18:45 PM 
Opening at home vs Syracuse is good for fans, but not a great schedule by our former AD. With this university strapped for cash, just like most of the MAC, why do a home and home with an ACC school? Not a wise decision.
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 4:08:53 PM 
It's no worse than our normal schedule framework of a home and home with a G5. An ACC team has to bring more to our gate than UMass or Idaho, and we still have the money game with Northwestern.
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 7:52:03 PM 
shabamon wrote:
It's no worse than our normal schedule framework of a home and home with a G5. An ACC team has to bring more to our gate than UMass or Idaho, and we still have the money game with Northwestern.


Yeah, Most G5 OOC schedules are a payout game from a P5, a pay-in game with an FCS and two games as part of home and home series. The home and home games are usually against other G5s but on occasion they are against P5s. If you can do that it should usually help your attendance in your home games. Other than that it doesn't chance the financial dynamic very much. I'm not sure what there is to complain about
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 9:15:09 PM 
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.
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   Posted: 12/7/2020 10:45:38 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.


Man, if we are getting that many folks into Peden when the capacity is a thousand less, just think what we could produce with a state of the art 30-35k facility, double deck on West side of Peden. That may give us the needed revenue to join the Big East or some other better conference.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 8:49:50 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.


Consider also the pent up demand for live sports, arts, events in general resulting from the pandemic. Whatever outlets survive should flourish when the time is right. A name athletic program at our place to open 2021 should be a sellout with no problem. In fact, I think it could be accomplished charging up to $40 for a reserved seat.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 9:35:32 AM 
The Syracuse game has lost a lot of luster in a short period of time. When it was first announced a few years ago, the Orange appeared to be on the rise. Since then they have majorly plummeted. This version of Syracuse looks more like Kansas than it did a few years ago. Should be an Ohio win.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 9:45:52 AM 
Victory wrote:
I think that Rourke has to both have confidence as a runner and stay healthy.
Otherwise, our .500 or better streak could easily end next year. I wonder if his non-throwing shoulder is now an Achilles Heel with his health.


His shoulder is now probably an area of concern, which might explain why he's not used as much as a runner because he looks very capable. But with that said, I think Ohio has been very, very fortunate with QB health over the past decade considering how much they are asked to run the ball and how big a part of the offense that is. QB's (drop-backs and dual-threats) have been dropping like flies over the years. And yet at Ohio, they've avoided any major injury to a starting QB for the majority of a normal full season despite a number of guys who were ball carriers at the position. Jackson, Scott, Vick, Sprague, Tettleton, Rourke, etc., have all been runnings QB's for Ohio and all of them stayed relatively healthy. Ohio has always avoided the disaster of losing them for the season like so many other schools have with guys over the years, which is pretty surprising considering how many runs and hits those guys accumulated.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 10:18:17 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.


But that trip to Syracuse will take the place of what would be a trip to another G5 team and there will be a payout game from another P5 team that same year. Just think of Syracuse functioning as a G5 team for scheduling purposes here just as Kansas did a couple of years ago. It changes almost nothing dollars and cents wise from our normal scheduling.

We have a better chance of slightly more attendance in the home game with respect to most G5 teams and the two games have a better chance of being on ESPNU instead of ESPN3. That's all that is financially different.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 10:36:00 AM 
Victory wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.


But that trip to Syracuse will take the place of what would be a trip to another G5 team and there will be a payout game from another P5 team that same year. Just think of Syracuse functioning as a G5 team for scheduling purposes here just as Kansas did a couple of years ago. It changes almost nothing dollars and cents wise from our normal scheduling.

We have a better chance of slightly more attendance in the home game with respect to most G5 teams and the two games have a better chance of being on ESPNU instead of ESPN3. That's all that is financially different.


Also, if the vaccines are taking hold and covid is even somewhat under control by late summer, people will be wanting to get back to at a semblance of normal. That means coming out to games. More kids will be on campus and parents will be in town to visit them. But if there are still restrictions on crowd sizes, Syracuse might not want to even the make the trip.

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   Posted: 12/8/2020 12:11:43 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
* Open at home v. Syracuse. Coach Dino Babers, after the Orange lost to ND Saturday, said there are a lot of players on Syracuse's defense that can't compete with him in the weight room, even though he is almost 60 years old. He said they have to get stronger over the next nine months and they will be very good. The NBC announcer mentioned Ohio during Saturday's broadcast when a Syracuse player was ejected in the second half for an illegal hit, saying he'll have to also miss the first half of their opener at Ohio.

* At Lousiana. I sat behind this team's sideline last fall at Peden and was impressed with the size and athleticism of its players. Typically, teams at this level get players that are either big but not athletic or athletic but not big. Rarely do they get players that combine both but the Cajuns have several players of this nature. And they've been in the top 25 most of 2020.

* At Northwestern, who has clinched the big 10 west after a lousy 2019.

I think Ohio should be better next year. They're going to have to be with these early challenges. The schedules for the following years only get more ambitious.


Love what Louisiana is doing, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Billy Napier end up at a bigger job by 2021.
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   Posted: 12/8/2020 1:15:01 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Ohio had over 23,000 fans at the Texas St home game in 2016. Five years ago in Peden, the Marshall game attendance was close to 25,000. That same year the SE Louisiana home game had almost 23,000 fans. Doubting the game with the Orange will top those figures. Even if the attendance is close to what the Marshall attendance was in 2015, it still isn't a good schedule dollars and cents wise. The Bobcats get very little for traveling to Syracuse in the return game. Having said that, it will be nice for Bobcat fans to see an ACC team in Peden.


Consider also the pent up demand for live sports, arts, events in general resulting from the pandemic. Whatever outlets survive should flourish when the time is right. A name athletic program at our place to open 2021 should be a sellout with no problem. In fact, I think it could be accomplished charging up to $40 for a reserved seat.


Kansas if I recall was $50 a reserved seat. That said the athletic department already designated the seats within the 30s on the new visitor side across from Phillips clubs as premium reserved seats for this season.

What type of numbers could Syracuse pull in? Overall probably lackluster as the crowds have trended down for 5 years. Social distance 25% capacity crowd if the MAC allows it for next season.

Of course the athletic department will promise to you it will be a sellout in August to take your money from you right before a social distance rule is announced.

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   Posted: 12/8/2020 1:21:42 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
The Syracuse game has lost a lot of luster in a short period of time. When it was first announced a few years ago, the Orange appeared to be on the rise. Since then they have majorly plummeted. This version of Syracuse looks more like Kansas than it did a few years ago. Should be an Ohio win.


Hope you are correct OhioBobcat! Although I do think the Orange are a step above the Kansas teams Ohio defeated.

Last Edited: 12/8/2020 1:22:59 PM by Bobcat1996
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