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OhioBobcat
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Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/23/2020 3:20:01 PM

I really like this matchup being first on the schedule for the Bobcats. CMU has had Ohio's number recently in the series, but I don't think CMU is going to be ready for OU in this one. CMU went from a the team picked last in the West last season all the way to the MAC Championship game. Now this year everyone is high on them in the West and I don't think they're going to be nearly as hungry. Ohio on the other hand is always a favorite in the East and simply reloads from year to year. Factor in CMU's starting QB is probably out for this one and I like Ohio getting the road win here.

Ohio - 31
CMU - 23

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/23/2020 3:33:59 PM

OhioBobcat wrote:

Haven�t they had nothing but issues and a depleted roster? Not seeing this one being close.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/23/2020 6:24:54 PM

They're pretty confident:

https://www.cm-life.com/article/2020/10/central-michigan-...

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/23/2020 8:41:33 PM

CMU - 35
Good Guys - 17

CMU�s inexplicable dominance over Ohio and Solich continues.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/23/2020 10:07:08 PM

It's hard to be optimistic about this game.

We always have trouble with the West. If we had been as dominant against the West over the last six seasons (8-10) as we were against the East (23-7) we would likely have had six straight MACCG appearances.

CMU has had complete dominance over us: 25-5-2 all-time; four straight wins. CMU accounted for four of the ten losses to the West during the past six seasons. Our last victory against them was in 2011 up there.

The last time we opened the season against a MAC team was 2014 at Kent -- a very poor showing against a lousy team (2-9. 1-6). We needed a last-second Yaz FG to win it 17-14. We kept fumbling the ball away until Solich put in a freshman RB named Oullette.

One bright spot is that we're going for ten straight wins in MAC openers. Our last loss in a MAC opener was at Toledo in 2010, the week before Rufus's famous/infamous takedown of Brutus at the 'Shoe.

A win would certainly be a big boost to our MACCG hopes.

I'm lousy at predictions, but with all the personnel issues CMU has had this fall I'm thinking we'll win a squeaker.

Last Edited: 10/23/2020 10:08:56 PM by Pataskala

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/24/2020 11:07:21 PM

OHIO 65
CMU 12

The CMU jinx is over. We play two QB's and they both score running and passing TDs. This one is over by before it starts. OHIO coasts for an easy win. GO OHIO!

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/25/2020 3:05:55 AM

I hope my Bobcats prove me wrong, but I don't like our chances in this one. With no proven performer under center, we did not get a good draw to get CMU away for our first game. Would have been better to have a weaker West opponent so that we could run our Offense through the paces before playing stiffer competition.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/25/2020 6:18:11 PM

New Qb (s) and new faces on the O line make me think we will struggle to score. I think we are still figuring it out and will probably get beat by 10-14 points.
Need to be ready for Mt. Pleasant weather which could be nasty.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/25/2020 9:57:44 PM

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No proven performer under center??? Rogers played THREE seasons at UNLV and started 18 times in that time. He was also the MWC's Frosh of the Year. The only team faced with possibly having a non-proven performer under center would be CMU if Moore isn't cleared to play - which he has yet to be. As of right now (with Moore out), Ohio has a big advantage at QB.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/26/2020 8:09:54 AM

OhioBobcat wrote:

bobcatgrad wrote:

And let's not forget that if and when Rogers plays/starts, he will be handing off to a 4-headed monster of Allison, Tuggle, Wilbon and Ross with 3 returning starting lineup and all 5 who were on the 2 deep last year. AND let's not forget about the receiving stable he will have. UNLV has been awful so my guess is he had to do it all. Here he has weapons. I am excited at the prospect of our defense and how good it can be. I love our linemen and cannot wait to see McCrory and Thompson joining Dorsa at LB.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/26/2020 11:39:04 PM

OhioBobcat wrote:

bobcatgrad wrote:

Sorry I wasn't more specific, but what I was talking about is we have no proven performer with our offense. We don't know how well Rogers will play for us until we get him out there and he has a chance to gel with our offensive personnel in real game situations.

Fair enough. If CMU's QB isn't cleared to play, that would effect their odds. I don't know anything about their 2nd string QB though.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/27/2020 8:25:24 AM

Playing Central Michigan in Mt. Pleasant is no picnic. Buffalo got a better draw playing NI.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/27/2020 12:23:25 PM

OhioBobcat wrote:

bobcatgrad wrote:

We don't even know who the starter is yet. Stop it.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/27/2020 11:27:25 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Playing Central Michigan in Mt. Pleasant is no picnic. Buffalo got a better draw playing NI.

Big deal. Buffalo can't win in Athens and guess where this year's game is? Athens. Enough said.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 6:57:18 AM

I think that it is very hard to pick the outcome of this first game back considering how unusual this year has been in terms of preparation and other factors. I like the idea that Ohio is primed to run the ball and control the clock, but Jim McElwain is just as likely to have that offense for CMU spinning on all four wheels regardless of whether their first string quarterback is playing or not. I think that it really comes down to which Defense rises to the ocassion. It doesn't help that Ohio has to travel to the frozen North either. If Ohio is solid and consistent on both sides of the ball, I give the Bobcats the nod. If not, it is going to be a long day for the 'Cats.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 6:35:44 PM

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 8:17:55 PM

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 8:54:54 PM

mf279801 wrote:

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

The 1 pt safety has only occurred three times in NCAA DI football since 1971

Last Edited: 10/28/2020 8:57:01 PM by BillyTheCat

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 10:10:02 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

The 1 pt safety has only occurred three times in NCAA DI football since 1971

I know (I saw the last one). That's why it would be so special.
(I don't know that the defense has ever scored a 1-pt safety, has it? I think all of the 1-pt safeties have been scored by the "TRY" team, right?

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/28/2020 10:36:01 PM

mf279801 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

The 1 pt safety has only occurred three times in NCAA DI football since 1971

Right the last one occurred at the 2013 Fiesta Bowl. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/22/nfl-may-... /

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4TeP4rw0s

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/29/2020 12:20:43 AM

Pataskala wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

The 1 pt safety has only occurred three times in NCAA DI football since 1971

Right the last one occurred at the 2013 Fiesta Bowl. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/22/nfl-may-... /

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4TeP4rw0s

This is why BA can be so educational at times. I had never heard about this play, let alone ever having seen it. That video you posted is priceless. Professor Jack Rhodes never explained this play in the athletic officiating class I took "back in the day."

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/29/2020 10:07:49 AM

Prediction 1: Game is going to be sloppy defensively. If anything has been learned watching Week One games, it's all about who's defense comes out with the best pursuit of the ball. Tackling will be ugly for sure, but the team that's in position to gang tackle the most will win.

Prediction 2: Building off of that, points are going to be scored by the truckload. If in Vegas, definitely take the over. Pretty confident here this will resemble a Big 12 game knowing how prolific our offense can be if the perimeter guys do their job.

Prediction 3: I will be intrigued by the injury/COVID list. As per usual, always keep tabs on how many starters are out. Team with most starters out typically lose in the MAC, don't have the depth to compensate a lost starter.

Prediction 4: Me thinks there will be a smidge of a QB battle at Ohio if the game turns south in a hurry. I think we will see the backup play and get a bunch of minutes.

Prediction 5: CMU isn't a joke this year and McElwain can coach. Me thinks they will have their fate decided against Toledo for the MAC West crown.

Prediction 6: We struggle with the MAC West, and I don't see that changing. What scares me is we don't have our QB back this year, which would for predictions 1 and 2 really be to our advantage. Final Score: CMU 42 Ohio 31

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/30/2020 8:13:49 AM

In stark contrast to the above, I'm predicting that the lack of preparation time will force both teams to keep it simple offensively. That will lead to more of a mano a mano battle at the line of scrimmage.

While we have had some turnover on our OL, CMU's is a mess, one returning starter. Our defense will come out stronger this year with our DL size and good young LBs. Frank will go heavier on the run than even usual with Rogers and our RBs.

OHIO 14, CMU 10

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/30/2020 5:57:15 PM

mf279801 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

brucecuth wrote:

yep, it's 2020, so Ohio wins 3 - 2.

I�d rather win 6-1

The 1 pt safety has only occurred three times in NCAA DI football since 1971

I think until about 1990 the rule was that when the defense possessed the ball on a try that the play was immediately dead. Then they gave the defense on a try a chance to score themselves. Since then a 1-point play is possible as they give a team 1 point for scoring a safety on the try. All of them have been scored by the "TRY" team when the defense does something like intercept the ball and give ground back into their own end zone trying to avoid a tackle while thinking that they can get two going the other way.

For a team to score one point in a game it would require an extraordinary set of circumstances. There was a game in 2017 where Louisiana Tech had a second and goal against Mississippi St. when their center snapped it over their QBs head. After a large number of players trying and failing to recover someone from Louisiana Tech finally fell on it for an 89 yard loss. For a team to have one point the most likely way would be for a similar play to happen where a team loses 97+ yards on a 2-point try. Then the team that scored the single point would have to not score any other points during the rest of the game. One team scoring a single point is substantially less likely than a 4-4 tie. Most fans have never thought about in but a 6-1 score is possible as is a score of anything eight or higher to one. 10-1 should be the most improbable football score that is possible other than games where one or both teams score an outrageous number of points.

Last Edited: 10/30/2020 6:00:07 PM by Victory

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RE: Ohio vs CMU predictions

Posted: 10/30/2020 6:22:10 PM

When thinking of the CMU game and Ohio's cadre of running backs - and perhaps a running QB - I am reminded of a game during the Grobe years. It was a sunny Saturday in Athens. Ohio's running game was playing at an A+ level. If my memory is correct, final was Bobcats 52 CMU 3.

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