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We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 725 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/9/2024 2:05:14 AM  Poor Kent State. Tennessee looks like the real deal. I hope that Kent State can get out of there in one piece. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,553 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/9/2024 6:49:12 AM  Maddog13 wrote: Poor Kent State. Tennessee looks like the real deal. I hope that Kent State can get out of there in one piece. I think Ball St is in similar peril. Cam Ward has been amazing for the Hurricanes so far. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,261 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/9/2024 8:01:17 AM  Kent St. is a 48 point underdog. Ball St. is a 36 point underdog. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 725 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/10/2024 7:03:46 AM  Agreed 100% Cat, and Victory, those are some crazy point spreads. Clearly, Vegas is desperate to get some action on the side of the MAC. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,950 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/10/2024 10:25:06 PM  Maddog13 wrote: Agreed 100% Cat, and Victory, those are some crazy point spreads. Clearly, Vegas is desperate to get some action on the side of the MAC. They ain’t desperate, it’s a mathematical formula that allows them to cover the bet with a profit. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 1,105 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/11/2024 12:06:02 PM  Something about that Toledo and Mississippi State game looks juicy. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 725 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/11/2024 7:07:06 PM  It's not just mathematical, Billy the Cat. The Bookmakers in Vegas are some of the best odds makers in the world. Even better, in some cases, then insurance adjusters. If it was purely mathematical, anyone could do it. These guys not only do their homework and have great information resources, but they have good instincts too. Part of the fun of betting in Sports Books in Vegas, at least in the past, is that you could get better odds from one Casino to the next. That's changed now since everyone is linked in real time via the Internet. In the old days, you could find out what Convention was in town and where most of the attendants were from. I used to make a fortune on the UCLA and Arizona basketball games, because a lot of Arizona fans would come up to Vegas to bet on the Wildcats and I got some great odds by betting against them and taking the Bruins. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,456 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/12/2024 9:11:45 AM  ExCat21 wrote: Something about that Toledo and Mississippi State game looks juicy. Oh yeah, I think they can pull out that win. And if they do... (undefeated season incoming). Though now that I see it's a night game... those just add a layer of excitement and pump up the crowd atmosphere. And that Cincy at Miami game... I hate to say it, but I think that's a win too. Gabbert looked pretty bad vs Northwestern, but I think he's too good to play like that in back-to-back games. Especially being at home. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,456 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 12:32:16 PM  Vakos just had a nice 53 yard bomb into the net vs Alabama. Then Nicholson shanked one. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 1,105 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 12:47:57 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: ExCat21 wrote: Something about that Toledo and Mississippi State game looks juicy. Oh yeah, I think they can pull out that win. And if they do... (undefeated season incoming). Though now that I see it's a night game... those just add a layer of excitement and pump up the crowd atmosphere. And that Cincy at Miami game... I hate to say it, but I think that's a win too. Gabbert looked pretty bad vs Northwestern, but I think he's too good to play like that in back-to-back games. Especially being at home. Still debating on placing a bet. I don't get that same feeling like I did last week (NIU vs ND). But it's close. Hopefully Fiami takes that game to go up one win in their tied series with Cincy. Beating a B12 opponent 2 years in a row is great for the MAC if they can do it. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 1,105 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 8:25:02 PM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: ExCat21 wrote: Something about that Toledo and Mississippi State game looks juicy. Oh yeah, I think they can pull out that win. And if they do... (undefeated season incoming). Though now that I see it's a night game... those just add a layer of excitement and pump up the crowd atmosphere. And that Cincy at Miami game... I hate to say it, but I think that's a win too. Gabbert looked pretty bad vs Northwestern, but I think he's too good to play like that in back-to-back games. Especially being at home. Should've placed my bet 🙃 Back to Top ctb General User Member Since: 8/29/2014 Location: Ohio Post Count: 118 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 8:54:34 PM  MAC > SEC Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,487 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 9:13:32 PM  This ass-whooping by Tennessee should be worth at least $3M. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 725 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 10:14:21 PM  4th quarter: Toledo is up on Mississippi State 38 - 10. Back to Top Maddog13 General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 725 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 10:56:55 PM  Final: Toledo 41 Mississippi State 17. Wow. I mean, Wow. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,335 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 11:08:27 PM  The results: OHIO 21--Morgan St 6 MiamiF 62-- BSU 0 Illinois 30--CMU 9 Cincy 27--MOFO 16 Buffalo 34--UMass 3 Akron 31--Colgate 20 WMU 59--Bethune-Cookman 31 EMU 37--J'ville St 34 (2OT) Toledo 41--MIssSt 17 Tenn 71--Kent 0 We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,436 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/14/2024 11:25:37 PM  Pataskala wrote: The results: OHIO 21--Morgan St 6 MiamiF 62-- BSU 0 Illinois 30--CMU 9 Cincy 27--MOFO 16 Buffalo 34--UMass 3 Akron 31--Colgate 20 WMU 59--Bethune-Cookman 31 EMU 37--J'ville St 34 (2OT) Toledo 41--MIssSt 17 Tenn 71--Kent 0 Some ugly losses-as expected. 1 great win by Toledo . No losses to FCS teams. It could have been worse Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,321 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/15/2024 12:04:05 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Pataskala wrote: The results: OHIO 21--Morgan St 6 MiamiF 62-- BSU 0 Illinois 30--CMU 9 Cincy 27--MOFO 16 Buffalo 34--UMass 3 Akron 31--Colgate 20 WMU 59--Bethune-Cookman 31 EMU 37--J'ville St 34 (2OT) Toledo 41--MIssSt 17 Tenn 71--Kent 0 Some ugly losses-as expected. 1 great win by Toledo . No losses to FCS teams. It could have been worse Seems like there is a big gulf between the top three or four teams in the MAC this year and the rest of the league. It doesn’t look there will be the usual parity that the league is famous for. Perhaps, I’m jumping the gun, but it look like NIU, UT, and WMU, maybe OHIO are a cut above the rest, with MOFO maybe on the heels of those four and then a big drop off. I could see several one-loss teams emerge at the end of the year and maybe one undefeated team. At this juncture 2024 doesn’t have the feel of the typical dog-eat-dog MAC season. This could all change in a week or so, but right now it looks the the bottom half of the league could could be the worst teams in all of FBS football, and the top two or three should be in the Top 25. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/15/2024 8:11:22 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Pataskala wrote: The results: OHIO 21--Morgan St 6 MiamiF 62-- BSU 0 Illinois 30--CMU 9 Cincy 27--MOFO 16 Buffalo 34--UMass 3 Akron 31--Colgate 20 WMU 59--Bethune-Cookman 31 EMU 37--J'ville St 34 (2OT) Toledo 41--MIssSt 17 Tenn 71--Kent 0 Some ugly losses-as expected. 1 great win by Toledo . No losses to FCS teams. It could have been worse Seems like there is a big gulf between the top three or four teams in the MAC this year and the rest of the league. It doesn’t look there will be the usual parity that the league is famous for. Perhaps, I’m jumping the gun, but it look like NIU, UT, and WMU, maybe OHIO are a cut above the rest, with MOFO maybe on the heels of those four and then a big drop off. I could see several one-loss teams emerge at the end of the year and maybe one undefeated team. At this juncture 2024 doesn’t have the feel of the typical dog-eat-dog MAC season. This could all change in a week or so, but right now it looks the the bottom half of the league could could be the worst teams in all of FBS football, and the top two or three should be in the Top 25. I'd divide it slightly differently: Tier 1: NIU, Toledo Tier 2: Miami, BG Tier 3: Ohio, WMU, EMU Tier 4: Ball State, CMU, Buffalo Tier 5: none Tier 6: none Tier 7: Akron, Kent, (U.Mass would go here, too) Being an upper-middle MAC team is not bad, considering all the turnover this year. Even better, while Ohio has some rough areas, I seem some strengths that Ohio can build on, and enough talent that, if they continue to improve, Ohio could move up a tier. The schedule is pretty favorable, too, with Ohio not playing NIU, BG, or WMU, so Ohio misses 3 of the top 6 teams, wile playing all five of the teams I placed in lower tiers. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,261 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/15/2024 8:20:54 AM  L.C. wrote: I'd divide it slightly differently: Tier 1: NIU, Toledo Tier 2: Miami, BG Tier 3: Ohio, WMU, EMU Tier 4: Ball State, CMU, Buffalo Tier 5: none Tier 6: none Tier 7: Akron, Kent, (U.Mass would go here, too) Being an upper-middle MAC team is not bad, considering all the turnover this year. Even better, while Ohio has some rough areas, I seem some strengths that Ohio can build on, and enough talent that, if they continue to improve, Ohio could move up a tier. The schedule is pretty favorable, too, with Ohio not playing NIU, BG, or WMU, so Ohio misses 3 of the top 6 teams, wile playing all five of the teams I placed in lower tiers. Spot on +1 on the ranking and comment. We need Parker to throw a better deep ball or we have problems and we aren't moving up. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,321 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/15/2024 10:40:13 AM  I agree with L.C., upon reflection, BG should take WMU’s spot, in my original rankings. Last Edited: 9/18/2024 12:20:30 PM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,860 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/16/2024 3:54:11 PM  L.C. wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Pataskala wrote: The results: OHIO 21--Morgan St 6 MiamiF 62-- BSU 0 Illinois 30--CMU 9 Cincy 27--MOFO 16 Buffalo 34--UMass 3 Akron 31--Colgate 20 WMU 59--Bethune-Cookman 31 EMU 37--J'ville St 34 (2OT) Toledo 41--MIssSt 17 Tenn 71--Kent 0 Some ugly losses-as expected. 1 great win by Toledo . No losses to FCS teams. It could have been worse Seems like there is a big gulf between the top three or four teams in the MAC this year and the rest of the league. It doesn’t look there will be the usual parity that the league is famous for. Perhaps, I’m jumping the gun, but it look like NIU, UT, and WMU, maybe OHIO are a cut above the rest, with MOFO maybe on the heels of those four and then a big drop off. I could see several one-loss teams emerge at the end of the year and maybe one undefeated team. At this juncture 2024 doesn’t have the feel of the typical dog-eat-dog MAC season. This could all change in a week or so, but right now it looks the the bottom half of the league could could be the worst teams in all of FBS football, and the top two or three should be in the Top 25. I'd divide it slightly differently: Tier 1: NIU, Toledo Tier 2: Miami, BG Tier 3: Ohio, WMU, EMU Tier 4: Ball State, CMU, Buffalo Tier 5: none Tier 6: none Tier 7: Akron, Kent, (U.Mass would go here, too) Being an upper-middle MAC team is not bad, considering all the turnover this year. Even better, while Ohio has some rough areas, I seem some strengths that Ohio can build on, and enough talent that, if they continue to improve, Ohio could move up a tier. The schedule is pretty favorable, too, with Ohio not playing NIU, BG, or WMU, so Ohio misses 3 of the top 6 teams, wile playing all five of the teams I placed in lower tiers. I agree with this take. Given all the turnover I think the coaching staff put together a pretty solid roster but maybe missed at QB. Having a "serviceable" or "game manager" QB behind center is what may keep the Cats from being in the top 2 tiers. Here's hoping we see a better QB performance against Kentucky than what was put on display against Morgan State. Back to back roadies against CMU and Miami will likely set the course for the MAC season. Ohio never seems to play well against the Chips (regardless of venue) and Miami in Oxford will be tough if the offense can't sustain drives. 1-2 out the gate could be a distinct possibility. The back 5 short of a trip to the Glass Bowl are very manageable and it's great getting Buffalo and EMU at home. My guess is either 5-3 or 4-4 in conference play which would be solid considering so many question marks coming into the season. Last Edited: 9/16/2024 3:55:47 PM by OUcats82 Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/16/2024 8:39:41 PM  OUcats82 wrote: I agree with this take. Given all the turnover I think the coaching staff put together a pretty solid roster but maybe missed at QB. Having a "serviceable" or "game manager" QB behind center is what may keep the Cats from being in the top 2 tiers. Here's hoping we see a better QB performance against Kentucky than what was put on display against Morgan State. Back to back roadies against CMU and Miami will likely set the course for the MAC season. Ohio never seems to play well against the Chips (regardless of venue) and Miami in Oxford will be tough if the offense can't sustain drives. 1-2 out the gate could be a distinct possibility. The back 5 short of a trip to the Glass Bowl are very manageable and it's great getting Buffalo and EMU at home. My guess is either 5-3 or 4-4 in conference play which would be solid considering so many question marks coming into the season. What Ohio needs is for Navarro to become Austin Everson, and Poulas to become Boo Jackson. ;) “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,950 Status: Offline     RE: Week 3 MAC Schedule    Posted: 9/17/2024 9:05:58 PM  L.C. wrote: OUcats82 wrote: I agree with this take. Given all the turnover I think the coaching staff put together a pretty solid roster but maybe missed at QB. Having a "serviceable" or "game manager" QB behind center is what may keep the Cats from being in the top 2 tiers. Here's hoping we see a better QB performance against Kentucky than what was put on display against Morgan State. Back to back roadies against CMU and Miami will likely set the course for the MAC season. Ohio never seems to play well against the Chips (regardless of venue) and Miami in Oxford will be tough if the offense can't sustain drives. 1-2 out the gate could be a distinct possibility. The back 5 short of a trip to the Glass Bowl are very manageable and it's great getting Buffalo and EMU at home. My guess is either 5-3 or 4-4 in conference play which would be solid considering so many question marks coming into the season. What Ohio needs is for Navarro to become Austin Everson, and Poulas to become Boo Jackson. ;) Boo or T3 could make this offense hum. This is NOT Eversons stylye of talent to surround him with. 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