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Topic:  Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
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Mark Lembright '85
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  Message Not Read  Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/28/2016 8:15:38 AM 
Let me ask you guys and solicit your opinions, because I'm genuinely curious, and somewhat concerned.

Does Ohio's big win over Toledo translate to more 2017 recruits? I hope it has a very positive effect because up until now, at least from outward appearances (as that's all we really have) the 2017 has been less than impressive, at least from a numbers point-of-view. Will this have a transitive effect on the Class of 2017?

Last Edited: 10/28/2016 8:15:57 AM by Mark Lembright '85

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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/28/2016 8:29:09 AM 
It can't hurt. My best guess is that the lower numbers, but higher quality, is one of two things. One possibility is that there was a negative effect from Coach George leaving just at the peak June recruiting period. The other possibility is that it reflects a deliberate strategy, to be more selective.

Virtually everyone who has verballed so far is a 3-star, rather than the 2-star recruits of prior years, so is that a coincidence, or a strategy? I don't have the time to follow recruiting that closely, so I can't answer that. I don't know if they have issued less offers this year than they did in years past. It's certainly possible that they felt that the classes were filling too fast, and they were missing out on better quality athletes late, so they were more selective early. Perhaps Ted can comment on whether the number of early offers out this year is as high as prior years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/28/2016 9:36:37 AM 
No it does not. Only springboard is if there was a recruit at the Toledo game looking at both of our school. Our win may teeter a decision if we are recruiting the same individual but no it does not. In my opinion.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/28/2016 3:00:37 PM 
ExCat 21, what about the National TV, exposure. The commentators talked about the NFL ability of Basham, Brown and Smith. If you as a recruit saw that, would that impress you?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/28/2016 7:06:45 PM 
Somewhat but we are still MAC.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/29/2016 2:31:16 PM 
It helps in that it ensures continuity in tradition. A MAC East title would be more important for recruits than a Toledo win even with a lopsided result in the championship game. Solich already has 3 MAC East titles but its been a while. He's proved to recruits he can contend for a MAC Championship. Winning the MACC this year says the program is ready to contend for a NYD game.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/29/2016 10:11:21 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Let me ask you guys and solicit your opinions, because I'm genuinely curious, and somewhat concerned.

Does Ohio's big win over Toledo translate to more 2017 recruits? I hope it has a very positive effect because up until now, at least from outward appearances (as that's all we really have) the 2017 has been less than impressive, at least from a numbers point-of-view. Will this have a transitive effect on the Class of 2017?


My son plays and told me a few months ago that it was going to be a small recruiting class. For whatever that's worth.
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Monroe Slavin
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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/30/2016 2:51:06 PM 
How many open scholarships will/do we have? Is it few such that this class will naturally be small?

Or does the staff feel depth is good, just needs a bit of in-fill and wants to hold for greater need in years further out?

Or maybe we don't see many recruit-worthy guys available this coming spring but see rich target classes after this coming spring??


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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 10/30/2016 3:28:28 PM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Let me ask you guys and solicit your opinions, because I'm genuinely curious, and somewhat concerned.

Does Ohio's big win over Toledo translate to more 2017 recruits? I hope it has a very positive effect because up until now, at least from outward appearances (as that's all we really have) the 2017 has been less than impressive, at least from a numbers point-of-view. Will this have a transitive effect on the Class of 2017?


My son plays and told me a few months ago that it was going to be a small recruiting class. For whatever that's worth.

There are only 16 Seniors on this team, so that's a starting point. There are usually a few people that are hurt and have to leave, or who leave the team for personal reasons. I doubt the class would be smaller than 18 or 20. On the other hand, if Jeff Christian and Deontai Williams are two of the recruits, that cuts the number by a couple.
In any case, if they are expecting a small class, and cut down the numbers of offers, being more selective, that would partially explain the lower number of verbals this year, but they higher quality of verbals.

Last Edited: 10/30/2016 3:30:20 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 11/7/2016 5:10:05 PM 
ExCat21 wrote:
No it does not. Only springboard is if there was a recruit at the Toledo game looking at both of our school. Our win may teeter a decision if we are recruiting the same individual but no it does not. In my opinion.


Ellison states in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t77_FTuacI4 that his only offer is Toledo this summer. So he eventually gets one from us as well. Then we play at Toledo and win, but only that he sees that our RB ran for over 200 yards and 2 TD's. Days later, he commits. So instead of saying no....I'll say depends. But he obviously was teetering between 2 schools who wanted him. We won the recruiting battle. I remember posts from the past were some BAers thought we always lost big recruiting battles for OHIO athletes to other top MAC schools. Here is a prime example of the tide changing....
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  Message Not Read  RE: Effect of a Possible Springboard Win on Recruiting
   Posted: 11/7/2016 5:16:03 PM 
He put up a 131.28 SPARQ training result out of 150. Hard to believe that will keep him as a 3-star RB. Thats easily 4-star and/or 5-star if he excels superbly in one or two of those categories. That's pretty impressive from a recruiting standpoint.
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