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Topic: Recruiting Services

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L.C.
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Recruiting Services

Posted: 6/25/2014 3:54:02 PM

ESPN - For the last few years they seemed dis-interested in the MAC. and were late posting things about who had committed, and rarely rated any Ohio recruits. Surprisingly this year ESPN is right up to date, almost like they are reading this board (maybe they are). When Hamilton flipped, and Williams committed, they picked up both changes immediately. They still haven't actually evaluated any of the Ohio recruits, but they are dead on with who they have listed.

Scout.com - They do seem to pay attention to the MAC, and try to rate all the recruits. Unfortunately they rate most of them with the same rating, 2 stars, which isn't all that helpful, but it's something. This year they are running about as usual, a recruit or two behind, but not bad. I must say that their new format for the individual athlete page is awful. It is as if they think that adding two pages of white space to a 1-page report, resulting in 3 pages that have no more data than the 1 page did before, is somehow more impressive.

247Sports - Last year they did a pretty decent job most of the year before dropping the ball at the end, and not rating at all any of the late recruits. This year they are lagging badly. At least they finally show some Ohio recruits today, for the first time this year.

Rivals.com - Once upon a time, this was a good service, but now they are the worst of the lot. As of today, they still show no recruits committed to Ohio.

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L.C.
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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 7/8/2014 3:02:49 PM

ESPN continues to pick up all the names just as fast as they are reported here, but doesn't rate them since Ohio isn't a Snob-5 team. Scout seems to lag a day or so behind, and makes a bit more effort to rate them. 247Sports has now picked up all the recruits, and will presumably rate them in the not too distant future. Rivals continues to bring up the rear.

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L.C.
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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/7/2015 5:59:53 PM

With a month to go, how are these services doing? Not very well, to be honest. Ohio has 18 recruits, supposedly. None have rated more than half the Ohio recruits:

ESPN - 14 identified, 8 rated
Scout.com - 14 identified, 5 rated
247Sports - 16 identified, 5 rated
Rivals - 9 identified, 9 rated

Given that no Ohio recruits have been rated by any service for about 3 months, I would guess that these services are all busy rating 2016 P5 recruits, and no more 2015 Ohio recruits will be rated by any service. Instead the remaining recruits will all just be assigned a "not rated" by ESPN, or a minimum rating by the others.

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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/21/2015 12:37:44 PM

Less than 2 weeks to go, and now it is:

Scout.com 15 identified, 9 rated
Espn 12 identified, 8 rated
Rivals 8 identified, 11 rated
and, bringing up the rear, far behind the others....
247Sports 16 identified, only 4 rated ***

*** Note: 247Sports ratings are to be taken with a grain of salt anyway, given that Howell had his rating dropped when he verballed to Ohio, while Trae Williams had his rating increased when he switched his verbal from Ohio to Northwestern.

Last Edited: 1/21/2015 6:26:53 PM by L.C.

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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/21/2015 2:23:39 PM

L.C. wrote:

Less than 2 weeks to go, and now it is:

Scout.com 14 identified, 9 rated
Espn 12 identified, 8 rated
Rivals 8 identified, 11 rated
and, bringing up the rear....
247Sports 16 identified, only 4 rated ***

*** Note: 247Sports ratings are to be taken with a grain of salt anyway, given that Howell had his rating dropped when he verballed to Ohio, while Trae Williams had his rating increased when he switched his verbal from Ohio to Northwestern.

Are the numbers for Rivals backwords?

It is interesting to see slow/little the recruiting services pick up on D1 college recruits. Especially when there are active user boards like this one doing a fair amount of the work for you.

L.C.
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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/21/2015 2:52:09 PM

Dexcat wrote:

No. The backwards look is caused because some people are rated, but not yet connected to Ohio. The ones rated, but not connected to Ohio yet are:
Rivals-Christian (3 stars, 5.6), Howell (2 stars, 5.4), and Alders (2 stars, 5.3)
Scout -Alders (3 stars)
ESPN has rated Christian (3 stars, 7.7), Colbert (3 stars, 7.3)
247Sports - none

I agree that it's odd how slowly they connect people to Ohio, especially given that the information is here and freely available. 247Sports gets it here, and the others will, in time, too. Probably a few days before signing day they will suddenly list everyone.

Scout does seem to be getting around to actually rating some of the Ohio recruits. Maybe some of the other services will, too.

Last Edited: 1/21/2015 2:53:12 PM by L.C.

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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/21/2015 10:00:21 PM

A wise way of looking at all these kids is that they are all good right now, it's how they handle the increased competition, and phiscal parts of the competition, the being away from mom and dad, or grandma and grandpa, and the freedom of college life that sets them apart.

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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/23/2015 5:08:23 PM

247Sports just did a massive MAC rating, applying some sort of rating to every MAC recruit for all teams. Using their rating system, Ohio now ranks 7th, but note that they still have not caught that Colbert has decommitted from EMU and committed to Ohio. That change would move Ohio to at least 6th, perhaps 5th. The top teams are:
1. WMU
2. NIU
3. Miami (Oh)
4. Toledo
5. CMU
6. Ohio

Note that the list factors in quantity as well as quality, and Ohio will have a small recruiting class, which holds them back. Let's try re-ordering their ratings based on other criteria. First, who has the highest percentage of 3-star rated recruits?
1. NIU 65% (of 20)
2. Ohio 59% (of 17)
3. Miami 50% (of 18)
4. U.Mass 50% (of only 8 known)
5. Kent 43% (of 14 known)
6. WMU 39% (of 28)
7. Toledo 36% (of 22)
8. EMU 30% (of 23)
9. CMU 30% (of 20)
10. BG 22% (of 18)
11. Buffalo 17% (of 12 known)
12. Ball State 11% (of 18)
13. Akron 0% (of 7 known)

What if you take an average rating for each team? I rounded it integers, and even that is probably more accuracy than really exists:
1. Miami, NIU, WMU 80
4. CMU, Kent, U.Mass, Ohio 79
8. Toledo, BG 78
10. EMU 77
11. Ball St 76
12. Buffalo 75
13. Akron 74

Whichever rating system you use, Ohio is in the upper third of the MAC, but not at the very top.

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L.C.
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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 1/30/2015 12:37:26 PM

Only half a week left, and now it is:
Espn 14 identified, 9 rated
Scout.com 17 identified, 9 rated (other get automatic 2-star)
Rivals 8 identified, 12 rated
247Sports 17 identified, only 17 rated

Number of 3-star players by service:
ESPN - 7 (Christian, Hagen, Howell, Zervos, Glasco, Colbert, Williams)
Scout - 9 (Christian, Howell, Ball, Cloud, Stevens-McKenzie, Alders, Glasco, Colbert, Williams)
Rivals - 2 (Christian, Ball)
247Sports - 4 (Christian, Ball, Stevens-Mckenzie, McKnight)

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L.C.
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RE: Recruiting Services

Posted: 2/3/2015 7:41:30 PM

Final numbers prior to signing day:
ESPN 15 identified, 9 rated
Scout.com 17 identified, 9 rated (other get automatic 2-star), plus 2 grayshirts
Rivals 10 identified, 14 rated
247Sports 17 identified, 17 rated
I expect all the names they add tomorrow will never be rated, but rather will be assigned minimum ratings.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

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