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Topic: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Signee

Topic: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Signee

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Ted Thompson
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2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Signee

Posted: 5/4/2013 9:38:45 PM

ScoutingOhio.com is reporting that 2014 QB prospect Joey Duckworth from Louisville High School has committed to Ohio. Rivals and Scout.com both rate the 6-3, 215-pounder with 3 stars and shows offers from Akron, BG, Buffalo, Kent St., Toledo and Western Michigan.

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Last Edited: 2/5/2014 8:34:24 AM by Ted Thompson

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 7:06:11 AM

After last year, I think I'll wait to be excited until signing day. Anyway , he sounds like a good one , lets hope he signs.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 10:55:38 AM

WOW.....SUPER get.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 12:19:48 PM

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1500513

A small mention about him at a camp about a week ago.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 1:42:09 PM

And, who is #5. Looks like a very good possession receiver with good route running abilities.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 3:48:41 PM

The more I read about his injury last year and him waiting for a BCS offer, I'm not encouraged that we will get him if he has a good year. Like I said before, we shouldn't get our hopes up on this guy.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 6:14:55 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I'm hoping he's a "stay close to home" kinda kid and the only bcs offer we might be afraid of would be OSU.....he's said OSU was his dream and he had a great camp at Ohio State......just optimistic for some reason that he will land with us.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 6:36:16 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I'm not going to let that affect things. How many guys have given Ohio a verbal, and then switched? A few, but not many. Certainly less than one a year. If happens, it happens, but until it does, I'm going to say that this is a great get, and a great start to another recruiting class.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/5/2013 8:50:41 PM

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

you can say what you want, but it means nothing until he signs . Walsh is way too recent for me to count my chickens on this one . The fact is we have had few 3 star QB'S with lots of offers who we have landed. While we have had only a few guys who have switched , we have had a fair number of our more highly rated guys not make it to campus, usually because of grades. I put them in the same category in a way of highly rated guys who don't make it here. I'd say all the guys who don't make it here in the year they first verballed is a lot more than 1 a year. Last year may have been the worst yet.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 1:33:33 PM

The way I look at it is this. First of all, there are students with grade issues, and those without. For the ones with grade issues or ACT test issues, even signing doesn't matter, as even then many will not be eligible. I would agree with you that these numbers are high, more than one a year. QB's rarely have grade issues, though, so I don't expect that will be an issue.

Moving on to the players without grade issues, Ohio issues about 6x as many offers as they have positions. If you assume even odds, then someone who gets an offer is about a 16% chance to end up at Ohio. Among those that verbal, there seems to be about a 95-98% chance they end up at Ohio. It's never a done deal until they sign, but the odds improve substantially when they verbal.

Even when they sign, is it a done deal? Some who are eligible won't show (Spencer Farley). Even among those that show up, some will get homesick, and leave (Brian Mellot, Matt Donahue, James Davis). Others will get hurt, and their career will end. Still others will turn out as a disappointment. Where do you draw the line? In the end there really isn't anything to "celebrate" until the games are played and won. The main point of the recruiting discussion, in my opinion, is to give us something to talk about in the off-season, and something to look forward to in years ahead.

Last Edited: 5/6/2013 1:33:55 PM by L.C.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 1:38:34 PM

You have to offer student athletes like this. Hopefully he likes football better than baseball....he's a heck of a baseball player and with his arm and speed (4.6 in the forty) and athletic ability he's probably gonna be drafted by mlb.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 1:52:36 PM

Doc, explain why we should consider this a "super" get when his only other offers are from other MAC schools? I thought Ohio was trying to separate itself from the pack in this conference.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 2:05:28 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Doc, explain why we should consider this a "super" get when his only other offers are from other MAC schools? I thought Ohio was trying to separate itself from the pack in this conference.

Good question my good friend Jeff.

Actually there are 2 questions here.....a question within a question so to speak.

The first question is why just MAC schools?

Well ALL the MAC schools I think except Ball State. He played only 5 games last year so that may be the reason it's only MAC. Also he was offered after his Sophomore year....that doesn't happen all the time. He might even get that OSU offer:

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/osu/post/_/id/27...

The other question is my use of the word SUPER.

Now at 6'3"-215 as a junior he could be 6'4"-235 in college....a Tim Tebow who can throw......baseball pitcher.....4.6 40.....excellent student.

I had SUPER in my brain after watching his arm then said it out loud when I saw his 81 yard touchdown run.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 2:16:28 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Doc, explain why we should consider this a "super" get when his only other offers are from other MAC schools? I thought Ohio was trying to separate itself from the pack in this conference.

again, he was apparently injured last year. The major conferences would probably rather not mess with guys who have been injured, all things considered . Hence he drops to MAC schools. Just guessing.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 2:56:11 PM

Alright! A BIGMANZ fullback to pound up the middle!

Oh, wait, he's a QB? And he can fit passes into tight double coverage? And rapidly read and work through his progressions? And throw a fade with perfect touch?

[/Mr. Burns voice]

Excellent......

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 3:30:49 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Doc, explain why we should consider this a "super" get when his only other offers are from other MAC schools? I thought Ohio was trying to separate itself from the pack in this conference.

So long as they are still a MAC team, Ohio can only get so much "distance". If they continue to get upper end MAC-Quality players, with a few better ones mixed in, and they can coach them up, Ohio will consistently be one of the best teams in the MAC, and be competitive with mid-level BCS teams. Thus a "super" get is a player that is an upper-end MAC player, or anything better.

Each year Ohio is getting better and better recruits, and getting them earlier and earlier. The 2010 class was kind of an exception to that trend, but by 2015 Ohio should be a better team than it is today.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/6/2013 6:08:49 PM

Doc,

I'll be very surprised if o$u offers Duckworth. Buckeyes' top QB target committed to Clemson and hasn't changed his mind despite Urban Meyer's efforts to get him to flip. Therefore, o$u recently sent out offers to the next top 4 QB's on their list, none by the last name of Duckworth.

Edit: I guess a preferred walk-on or grayshirt offer could still get Duckworth to Columbus.

Last Edited: 5/6/2013 6:10:26 PM by bobcatsquared

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/7/2013 6:40:45 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

...Walsh is way too recent for me to count my chickens on this one . ...

As a FWIW, comparing the ratings of Walsh to Duckworth:
247 Sports - Walsh was rated 82 by 237Sports. Duckworth is rated 84.
Rivals -Walsh was 5.6, and Duckworth is 5.6.
ESPN - Walsh was 72, Duckworth has not yet been rated
Scout - Walsh was 2 star, QB#96, Duckworth is 3-star, QB#50

By the way, this will be an ideal year for QB recruiting. With TT in his Senior year, competition will be wide open to replace him, Vick has the inside track, but he be challenged for the job.

Last Edited: 5/7/2013 6:42:09 PM by L.C.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/8/2013 11:25:34 AM

Thanks to all for the responses to my post. I was thinking along the same lines but I wanted to hear what the intelligentsia on football recruiting had to say.

For example, it's better to beat out Toledo for a recruit than, say, Eastern Michigan.

And the upside involved with a HS athlete who gets injured, then subsequently overlooked by BCS schools, makes sense. Also the physical tools he has.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/8/2013 5:55:59 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

..For example, it's better to beat out Toledo for a recruit than, say, Eastern Michigan.
..

Yes, normally I'd agree, but remember that last year EMU landed the only 4-star recruit in the MAC, a QB.

Duckworth looks like a great recruit, and he's certainly highly regarded. Yes, he could de-commit, but being honest, Ohio is a great opportunity for a freshman QB to come in and try to earn the spot:
1. Ohio runs a modern offense that will allow a QB to excel, as TT has
2. Ohio is on TV enough that if a QB plays well, he will get national exposure
3. Ohio has a Senior QB, and the job will be wide open next year
4. Ohio is extremely thin at backup QB, with only Vick and Windham at the position.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/8/2013 9:29:28 PM

Dare I say we look to be off to a very good start with this year's recruiting. Now call me again in February when it matters, because we know if this kid really blows up this season he's probably gone. If we do lose him hopefully it won't be as late in the process as when Walsh left. That devastated our class last year. But I give our staff credit for swinging big for high upside playmakers instead of settling on the safe picks with no other offers.

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/9/2013 12:36:39 PM

Louisville (pronounced LEWIS-ville, not LOUEY-ville or LOU-ville if you've never been and opposed to the Kentucky friends who get upset when you say it wrong) is a heck of a program up in NE Ohio. They regulary go anywhere from 8-2 to 10-0 year in and year out. They seem to rarely make noise in the OHSAA playoffs though because they are almost a big fish in a small pond. I think they are a D2 school but plays in a conference (NBC) that consists of mostly D3 or some D4 schools. They've had some great players come out of there recently.

Last Edited: 5/9/2013 12:38:25 PM by GoCats105

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/9/2013 12:55:39 PM

Reminds me of a verbal quiz I give my 5th-graders every year. Is the capital of Kentucky pronounced LEWIS-ville or LOUEY-ville?

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/9/2013 1:25:29 PM

bobcatsquared wrote:

Reminds me of a verbal quiz I give my 5th-graders every year. Is the capital of Kentucky pronounced LEWIS-ville or LOUEY-ville?

Frankfort

I used to ask how to pronounce the capital of Kansas, Wich-a-ta or Wich-ee-ta?

Topeka

Last Edited: 5/9/2013 1:38:55 PM by Bcat2

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RE: 2014 QB Joey Duckworth (Louisville HS) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/10/2013 9:31:28 PM

Very Marino-like delivery from multiple arm angles. Impressive.

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