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Topic: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Topic: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

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Casper71
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THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 12:03:52 PM

This from the Cincy Enquirer:

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131206/SPT0103/312060087/Miami-build-13M-football-practice-building

Everyone's doing it so why shouldn't they? I guess now nobody will have an advantage since everyone is gonna have one.

Oh well...it's just $13million here and $13 million there!

oops, should have been on football not recruiting...

Last Edited: 12/6/2013 12:04:56 PM by Casper71

Paul Graham
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 12:42:10 PM

Casper71 wrote:

$13 million, spent correctly, could transform a middling academic department into something legit. No wonder the faculty members freak out so much about this stuff.

L.C.
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 1:52:45 PM

It says Miami is spending $80million on athletics, overall, so the $13m IPF is just a start. Like the Ohio IPF, which was a little cheaper at $11m, the Miami IPF will be used by other sports, too, and for intermurals.

Also, even high schools have IPFs these days.

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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 3:05:26 PM

L.C. wrote:

Quote from link. Would someone from that area please tell us the last line is not true, please? "the school had to cancel it�s English and Music programs."

"In case you don�t quite get the significance of a high school having one of these, consider that the practice facility the Tigers use at Massillon is not only bigger than the one the Cleveland Browns use, but that the Bengals � who, ironically enough, were owned by Paul Brown � don�t have one at all.

In other news, the school had to cancel it�s English and Music programs."

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

L.C.
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 3:59:58 PM

I saw that, too. I certainly hope it was a joke. If it was, it wasn't in very good taste.

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Ryan Carey
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 6:03:32 PM

I live in the neighboring school district and I am fairly sure well over 90% of Massillon's ipf was from money donated from the guy who built the Camelot music stores from the truck of his car (then sold right before mp3 downloads got popular.)

English and music were not cut.

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Paul Graham
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Posted: 12/6/2013 6:36:38 PM

L.C. wrote:

I saw that, too. I certainly hope it was a joke. If it was, it wasn't in very good taste.

A quick Google search shows that Massillon Schools was in a financial crisis the past year and cut 3 or 4 million from their budget and it appears music was trimmed a bit. So the comment is only partially true.

And even if it was given by a private donor....what a waste of money.

colobobcat66
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Posted: 12/6/2013 8:06:05 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

L.C. wrote:

I saw that, too. I certainly hope it was a joke. If it was, it wasn't in very good taste.

sorry you don't get a vote in how other people spend their money even though I tend to agree with you

L.C.
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 8:26:00 PM

In fairness to Paul, unless the donor also provided a fund to pay for perpetual operating expenses, he still saddled the school system with some significant extra expenses. That said I have no particular opinion on whether the school should have accepted the gift of declined it, nor enough knowledge about that school system to have any clue whether the reduction in music budget was related to this IPF.

I do know that educators often, as a ploy to get more money, make cuts first to things like Arts, Music, and gifted programs, even though there isn't that much money to be saved there precisely because they know the cuts will be noticed by the affluent parents.

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colobobcat66
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/6/2013 9:08:19 PM

L.C. wrote:

sounds like our IPF situation

L.C.
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Posted: 12/6/2013 11:43:10 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

sounds like our IPF situation

With the exception that a University has a lot bigger budget than a High School, and presumably a lot more uses for a building of that size.

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colobobcat66
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RE: THE FACILITIES RACE CONTINUES

Posted: 12/7/2013 2:03:38 PM

L.C. wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

sounds like our IPF situation

With the exception that a University has a lot bigger budget than a High School, and presumably a lot more uses for a building of that size.

didn't say it was the same, just similar in that operating expenses have to be paid in both cases, that's all

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