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Monroe Slavin
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Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 1:51:07 PM

Who can go up and just get it over defenders.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 4:14:48 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Who can go up and just get it over defenders.

Trend is that way. Not really tall, but taller.

8 Cochran, Chase WR 6-2/192 RS JR Lebanon, Ohio/Lebanon
12 Reid, Jordan WR 6-3/200 RS FR Stone Mountain, Ga./Parkview
5 Rodriguez, Malik WR 6-3/205 RS FR Brooklyn, N.Y./Poly Prep Country Day
85 Cope, Brendan WR 6-2/183 FR Warren, Ohio/Howland
16 Wyatt, Justin WR 6-1/186 FR Lawrenceville, Ga./Collins Hill
82 Mangen, Troy TE 6-5/252 FR Union, Ohio/Northmont
86 Morgan, Mason TE 6-6/232 FR Cincinnati, Ohio/Sycamore
Brown, Connor, TE 6-6/235 Recruit
84 Sawyer, Kawmae WR 6-0/194 RS SO Cleveland, Ohio/Villa Angela - St. Joseph
87 Smith, Landon WR 6-0/185 JR Girard, Ohio/Girard
Meyer, Andrew WR 6-0/185 Recruit

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 5:36:47 PM

While your at it how about a QB over 6' that can get it over defensive linemen.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 9:57:51 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Who can go up and just get it over defenders.

How many 6'0 TE's do you know of? TE's are tall generally. So, take the TE's away and I see no partic tall receivers. Let me be more specific--tall wideouts.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 10:17:08 PM

Ohio has a couple of 6'3" wide receivers, which is plenty tall enough. Josh Gordon's 6'3" and no one thinks he's too short.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/24/2013 11:56:14 PM

I worry more about Ohio's short CB/Nickles than I do about tall receivers:
Jarid Brown 6'0"
Ian wells - 5'11"
Blake Scipio - 5'11"
Dyquan Stewart 5'10"
Mike Terpin 5'10"
Devin Bass - 5'9"
Nathan Carpenter - 5'9"
Shawn Harris - 5'8"
Plus: Jalen Fox 5'10" and Curtis Brunson 5'11"

PhiTau74 wrote:

While your at it how about a QB over 6' that can get it over defensive linemen.

Vick and Sprague are both listed at 6'2" and Leffingwell at 6'2". Windham, if he returns, was also listed at 6'1". Duckworth is supposed to be 6'3".

Last Edited: 12/24/2013 11:58:02 PM by L.C.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/25/2013 11:30:11 AM

I have to agree with L.C. Our secondary is small. I think some of the listed heights may be exaggerated. If you really want to argue about having a small secondary just look at who the opposition targets. In my mind it is fairly consistent who the opposition targets when they attack our defense.
A 6"3" wideout versus a 5'9" CB or nickelback is a great advantage for an offense.
The other attribute is speed and I think all of our corners are fast, and good athletes.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/25/2013 2:49:43 PM

Yes, they are fast, quick, and can jump. The only problem is that the guy that jumps is at the apex only for a short time, while the tall receiver is up there all the time.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/25/2013 5:57:07 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Who can go up and just get it over defenders.

How many 6'0 TE's do you know of? TE's are tall generally. So, take the TE's away and I see no partic tall receivers. Let me be more specific--tall wideouts.

Monroe, I don't believe Morgan or Brown are being recruited for their blocking. I invite you to view their videos. Both move very well and have athleticism not usually seen at 6-6.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 1:07:01 AM

Are they going to play TE?

TE's are generally tall. Nobody plays a 6'2" TE.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 9:30:26 AM

Ohio's tallest wide receivers in recent years:
Dayne Hammond 6'6"
Robert Mercer 6'5"
Cody Karr 6'5"
Serggio Judkins 6'4"
Adedipe Adetunji 6'4"
Terrence McCrae 6'4"
Justin Fitzgerald 6'3"
Jahan Olyaie 6'3"
Paul Hershey 6'3"
Jordan Reid 6'3"
Sebastian Smith 6'3"
Malik Rodriquez 6'3"

You might or might not agree with my list of some of Ohio's best WRs in recent years, but you probably wouldn't include most of the players above on such a list (players in bold played professional football, and I think Foster will):
Terrence McCrae 6'4"
Chase Cochran 6'2"
Matt Donahue 6'2"
Steven Goulet 6'2"
Riley Dunlop 6'2"
Scott Mayle 6'1"
Taylor Price 6'1"
Donte Foster 6'1"
Chido Nwokocha 6'0"
Gary Fortune 6'0"
Tyler Futrell 6'0"
Matt Waters 6'0"
Mario Dovell 6'0"
Landon Smith 6'0"
Lavon Brazill 5'11"
Ryan Clark 5'9"
Chris Garrett 5'8"

Interestingly I'd say that Ohio has more good, tall receivers now than they have had. Reid, S. Smith and Rodriguez may make the list of Ohio's best receivers in due time.

Last Edited: 12/26/2013 9:48:09 AM by L.C.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 9:34:49 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Are they going to play TE?

TE's are generally tall. Nobody plays a 6'2" TE.

Yes, I expect them at TE, yet, they were both downfield receivers on film.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 9:52:16 AM

L.C. wrote:

Terrence McCrae 6'4"

We miss T-Mac in the red zone/on the goal line. Brazill's athleticism masked it for a couple years, but these last 2 seasons we have not been as good at nailing the fade route (maybe some of that is QB play, but I don't think so).

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 10:05:03 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Are they going to play TE?

TE's are generally tall. Nobody plays a 6'2" TE.

6'2"? How about 6'3"? Here's a list of some of Ohio's recent TEs:
Jordon Thompson 6'3"
Zach Clark 6'3"
Corey Logan 6'3"
Tom Christy 6'3"
Andrew Mooney 6'3"
Jahan Olyaie 6'3"
Derek Roback 6'3"
Art Jordan 6'3"
Andrew Pepin 6'3"
Davon Henry 6'3"
Adam Olsheski 6'2"
John Tanner 6'2"

Only in the last couple years has Ohio been starting to load up on the tall TEs:
Troy Hill 6'5"
Tyler Knight 6'5"
John Tanner 6'4"
Anthony Talbert 6'4"
Troy Mangen 6'5"
Mason Morgan 6'6"
Connor Brown 6'7"
Kyle Kuhar 6'5"
Brennen Boland 6'5"

Last Edited: 12/26/2013 10:05:43 AM by L.C.

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L.C.
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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 10:20:42 AM

C Money wrote:

...We miss T-Mac in the red zone/on the goal line. Brazill's athleticism masked it for a couple years, but these last 2 seasons we have not been as good at nailing the fade route (maybe some of that is QB play, but I don't think so).

Well, if they wanted to, next year they could go with Sebastian Smith, Malik Rodriguez, and Jordan Reid at WR, plus Mangen and Morgan at TE, and line up 6'3", 6'3", 6'3", 6'5", and 6'6". (Does any team have 5 DB's tall enough to cover those guys??) Ohio has more height now than it's had in recent years, by far, so height itself isn't something I worry about in the receiving corps. As I said, at DB, yes, there I worry about it.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 11:33:49 AM

L.C. wrote:

C Money wrote:

Going off memory, it seems to me most DBs are relatively short, or at least shorter than their WR counterparts. This seems to be true at all levels--college and NFL. I have wondered if that's because of speed. Does a tall guy lose a step on a shorter guy? Maybe it's easier to turn in a 4.5 40 when your 5'11" vs 6'3".

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/26/2013 1:37:34 PM

Or, maybe it's the ability to change direction quickly. The bigger, taller WR is fine because he knows where he is going, but the DB has to react, and may have to change direction abruptly. The physics would favor a lower-mass DB closer to the ground, I would think. Also, I would say that corners tend to be shorter than Safeties and that's consistent with my hypothesis.

Still, Ohio's corners have always seemed even shorter than most. The 5'10" to 5"11" ones aren't my concern, it's the 5'6-5'9" DBs. Yet, as I think of this, I think of some All-Pro DBs no bigger than Solich, so I guess it all works out.

Last Edited: 12/26/2013 1:40:25 PM by L.C.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/28/2013 2:01:02 PM

L.C. wrote:

That's pretty normal. Outside of Alabama I doubt any college programs have many guys in their secondary over 6'0. Even top NFL corners are short.

Joe Haden - 5'11
Leon Hall - 5'11
Darrelle Revis - 5'11
Alterraun Verner - 5'10
Brandon Flowers - 5'9
Brent Grines - 5'10

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Posted: 12/30/2013 12:00:14 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

L.C. wrote:

Richard Sherman - 6'3"

lol, I understand what you're saying, but I also think in the NFL a lot of the teams build their rosters to win their divisions. in the NFC West, Seattle needed bigger defensive backs to match up with Arizona (going back to when Warner was there and they were good). But a lot of the times DBs that are tall and longer legged have trouble getting out of back pedal, flipping the hips, etc. so the shorter guys are much more capable of that.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/30/2013 2:02:05 PM

Get some guys who can Terrence McCrae just go up and get it.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 12/31/2013 9:23:09 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Get some guys who can Terrence McCrae just go up and get it.

After watching sports for many years I come to a conclusion with wide receivers. The great ones have a brain that processes exactly where the ball will be after the receiver first sees it coming his way and adjusts his gate and course and optimizes the best spot to catch the ball. IMO what made Terry Bradshaw the Super Bowl winning QB, was that regardless of where he threw the ball, Swann and Stallworth adjusted to where the ball would be and the DB never really seeing the ball had no clue how to break it up. Buckeyes receiver drafted by the Browns, Robiske was clueless. During the NC game the qb put two passes down the field that were broken up by the db. Had Robiske adjusted his route, ala Lynn Swann, they would have been likely catches. Goal of receiver is to catch the ball, not to make a TD so if the best place to catch a pass without the DB breaking it up is to stop five yards up the field and jump up 11ft and grab it then that is what the great ones do and instinctively know it.

Its similar in other sports. Take Joe DiMaggio, legend had it that he wasn't the fastest centerfielder but when the batter swung, 99.9% of the time he knew exactly where the ball was going to be coming off the bat and he ran the direction giving him the best shot at timing his catch.

Great rebounders know when the shot goes up the likely angle of the bounce and try and get to that spot and over the course of a season snag more than others.

Too many times you see a poorly thrown pass that gets picked when the wideout could have played db and broken up the play but for some reason their brain is not processing where the ball is headed soon enough.

Punt coverage teams bug the sheet out of me. The outside guys burn down the field and seldom gaze back over their shoulder to pick up where the ball is headed and instead go to the guy signaling the fair catch while the ball hits ten yards away and could have easily been downed had the guy known where the ball was headed. Its like a centerfielder never making the catch of one over his head

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 1/9/2014 5:38:33 PM

Colts adding WRs. Branch at 5' 9" and Lenz at 6'.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 1/9/2014 5:57:28 PM

FL State won the national championship because some 6'6" dude went up and caught the winning TD and some other key throws.

We need some really tall receivers. Deal with it.

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 1/9/2014 7:19:45 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

FL State won the national championship because some 6'6" dude went up and caught the winning TD and some other key throws.

We need some really tall receivers. Deal with it.

Mizzou also has Green-Beckham @ 6'6". He and the FSU receiver definitely are playmakers. I saw another of this type at the high school level, Kony Ealy, he grew into a DE also at Mizzou. I searched Rivals for 6'5" and taller WRs. There were 24. Nine remain uncommitted. Something tells me coach Dixon has the list. 24 really tall receivers, Ohio might not get one. We might have to deal with that.

Sport: Football; Year: 2014; Position: Wide Receiver; Show only: offered; Height: 6'5" or tallerRevise Search �.

Allen Lazard
Urbandale, Iowa
Urbandale
6'5" 204 N/A
4 stars
6.0 7
Iowa State

WR
Mark Andrews
Scottsdale, Arizona
Desert Mountain
6'6" 225 N/A
4 stars
5.9 13
Oklahoma

WR
Dallis Todd
La Mirada, California
La Mirada
6'5" 205 N/A
4 stars
5.8 48
Oklahoma

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Blake Bone
Woodruff, South Carolina
Woodruff
6'5" 183 4.7
4 stars
5.8 49
Kentucky

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Jeffery Mead
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Union
6'5" 179 N/A
3 stars
5.7 71
Oklahoma

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Greg McKillion
Independence, Kansas
Independence C.C.
6'5" 225 N/A
2 stars
5.4 N/A
Memphis

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Matthew Eaton
Pascagoula, Mississippi
Pascagoula
6'5" 193 N/A
2 stars
5.3 N/A
list

WR
Alex Egurbide
Westlake Village, California
Westlake
6'6" 200 4.7
2 stars
5.3 N/A
list

WR
Brayden Lenius
West Hills, California
Chaminade
6'5" 214 N/A
2 stars
5.4 N/A
list

WR
Darrell Langham
Lantana, Florida
Santaluces
6'5" 205 4.5
3 stars
5.6 N/A
Miami (FL)

WR
Kendrick Edwards
Miami, Florida
Miami Norland
6'5" 199 N/A
2 stars
5.4 N/A
list

WR
Jamal Custis
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Neumann-Goretti
6'6" 210 N/A
3 stars
5.5 N/A
Syracuse

WR
Trevor Long
East Bernard, Texas
East Bernard
6'5" 212 4.5
2 stars
5.3 N/A
Rice

WR
Jarvis Bentley
Fulton, Mississippi
Itawamba C.C.
6'5" 195 N/A
3 stars
5.5 N/A
Troy

WR
Nick Kurtz
El Cajon, California
Grossmont C.C.
6'6" 205 4.5
4 stars
5.8 N/A
Brigham Young

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Garrett Gray
Marble Falls, Texas
Marble Falls
6'5" 205 4.6
3 stars
5.5 N/A
Texas

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Rory Donovan
Brockton, Massachusetts
Cardinal Spellman
6'6" 195 4.6 N/A N/A
New Hampshire

WR
Javon Williams
Yuma, Arizona
Arizona Western C.C.
6'6" 195 4.5
2 stars
5.4 N/A
list

WR
Jesse Tate
Glendale, Arizona
Glendale C.C.
6'6" 200 4.6
2 stars
5.3 N/A
list

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Nik Little
Huntington Beach, California
Golden West C.C.
6'5" 205 4.7 N/A N/A
list

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Nat Dixon
Lynn Haven, Florida
Mosley
6'5" 175 N/A N/A N/A
list

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Raelon Singleton
Crosby, Texas
Crosby
6'5" 185 4.5
3 stars
5.5 N/A
Utah

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Darnell Green-Beckham
Springfield, Missouri
Hillcrest
6'5" 175 N/A
2 stars
5.3 N/A
Missouri

WR
Anthony Holmes
West Des Moines, Iowa
Valley
6'6" 205 N/A N/A N/A
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Last Edited: 1/9/2014 7:22:03 PM by Bcat2

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RE: Some really tall receivers.

Posted: 1/9/2014 8:39:55 PM

I'm going to guess that most kids with that kind of speed and height combo find they have more value in roundball, and that's why we don't see many in football.

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