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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 2:39:14 PM 
There is something very different about this year's recruiting class. Prior classes have normally had less than half of the class from the state of Ohio. This year they are almost all from Ohio. Here is the percentage of Freshman recruits from Ohio (includes no-shows) on a year by year basis:
2005 (10/25=40%) - Febus, Ferrainolo, Hartke, Kenkel, Lawrence, Mellot, J. Meyers, Philibin, Schussler, White
2006 (10/17=59%) - Price, Karr, Luchsinger, Black, Posey, Williamson, Reece, Mercer, Fletcher, Hightower
2007 (9/20=45%) - Flading, Dunlop, Clark, O'Hara, Edwards, C. Meyers, King, Jackson, Flowers
2008 (7/17=41%) - Bussey, Carlotta, Greene, Harris, Herman, Thompson, Weller
2009 (5/21=24%) - Davison, Dovell, Taylor, Johnson, Edmond
2010 (6/13=46%) - Carpenter, Cochran, Ingol, Snyder, Tarrant, Kristoff
2011 (12/22=55%) - Crutcher, Davis, Hammonds, Johnson, Macer, McQueen, Price, Purdum, Russell, L. Smith, Wells, Venham
2012 (6/16=38%) - Clark, Laseak, Roberts, S. Smith, Tanner, Watson
2013 (9/20=45%) - Cope, Leavitt, Mangen, Morgan, Murdock, Poling, Quallen, Smart, Wood
2014 (15/18=83% as of now) - Lowery, Duckworth, McCray, Kuhar, Berger, Brumfield, Washington, Brown, Dicillo, Pruehs, Royster, Dudziak, Meyer, Langenkamp, Fox [The only out of state recruits are Walker, Irons, and Brunson]

What does this mean? Is this a one-year aberration? Is it a sign that Ohio's brand is continuing to increase, and that Ohio is becoming the #3 team in the state? Did the coaches reduce their travel budget to the rest of the US so that they could do multiple trips to Canada?


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Casper71
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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 2:52:55 PM 
I look at this a bit differently.  I think we really need players from FL, VA, GA, CALI, etc.  I hope the recruiting budgets haven't been cut because if we just get OHIO guys other MAC schools are recruiting we will not win a MACC.

Last Edited: 1/23/2014 2:53:42 PM by Casper71

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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 3:47:10 PM 
Casper, this time it was me being tongue in cheek. I agree that Ohio needs some out of state recruits, too, and I doubt they cut the budget. I just was surprised by how many of this year's class is from Ohio. Maybe there are just an unusually high number of good Ohio players this year.

There are good things about having a lot of Ohio recruits in that it helps make the team "local", and adds potential fans in friends and family that might attend games. In the end I just hope they get good recruits.

Last Edited: 1/23/2014 3:49:45 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 4:08:41 PM 
Where are you getting 18 recruits this year for Ohio? Viewing the recruiting page and counting Washington and Layton the count is 23. Regardless I think its a breakthrough class in-state and is the reflection of the bowl wins over the last couple of years. Interest in attending Ohio camps is soaring and the new IPF might be swaying opinions.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 4:18:40 PM 
I am counting Freshmen only, not the Jucos, so I didn't include Clark, Murray, Bonnstetter, Boland, or Layton, nor did I include Jucos in previous years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 5:23:22 PM 
I missed that initially. What I think is more telling is how many of the Top 100 recruits of Ohio are signing with Ohio. The Top 3 instate signings for the MAC were signed by Ohio (Duckworth, McCray, Dudziak). I'm surprised how well Kentucky recruited the state based on their annually poor performance and struggles with Louisville (AAC) and Western Kentucky (CUSA). Ohio could up that total to 6 or 8 a year that would make the program pretty competitive I would think. 

Kentucky (11 recruits)
Ohio State (9 recruits)
Cincinnati (6 recruits)
Indiana (7 recruits)
Louisville (6 recruits)
Michigan State (4 recruits)
Pittsburgh (4 recruits)
Ohio (4 recruits)
Duke (3 recruits)
Kent State (3 recruits)
Michigan (2 recruits)
Notre Dame (2 recruits)
Wisconsin (2 recruits)
Tennessee (2 recruits)
Virginia Tech (2 recruits)
West Virginia (2 recruits)
Illinois (2 recruits)
Northwestern (2 recruits)
Fiami (2 recruits)
Alabama (1 recruit)
Oklahoma (1 recruit)
North Carolina (1 recruit)
Iowa (1 recruit)
Boston College (1 recruit)
Buffalo (1 recruit)
Bowling Green (1 recruit)
Toledo (1 recruit)
UTEP (1 recruit)
Maryland (1 recruit)

http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/CompositeRankin...>


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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 5:52:51 PM 
I think this link is the one you were after for the 247Sports Top 100 in Ohio, ranked by Composite. I see:
59. Duckworth
66. McCray
71. Dudziak
84. Lowery
101. C. Brown
120. Kuhar
128. Berger
132. Fox
133. Pruehs
138. Brumfield
139. Langenkamp
143. DiCillo

They haven't evaluated Meyer, Royster, or Washington.





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C Money
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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 7:07:52 PM 
Relevant.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/1/23/5324682/college-football-recruiting-where-do-mac-football-players-come-from
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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 7:13:38 PM 
L.C. wrote:
I think this link is the one you were after for the 247Sports Top 100 in Ohio, ranked by Composite. I see:
59. Duckworth
66. McCray
71. Dudziak
84. Lowery
101. C. Brown
120. Kuhar
128. Berger
132. Fox
133. Pruehs
138. Brumfield
139. Langenkamp
143. DiCillo

They haven't evaluated Meyer, Royster, or Washington.

Drilling down to the Top 143 Ohio has 12 recruits and of quality fairly close to Cincinnati. What I'm seeing from the numbers is IU and Kentucky pushing into Ohio for players now that UC is no longer a BCS program. Since Ohio is the top recruiting state in the midwest Ohio easily has one of the best classes in the MAC this year.

Ohio (12 recruits)
Cincinnati (10 recruits)
Bowling Green (10 recruits)
Toledo (6 recruits)
Kent State (5 recruits)
Miami (5 recruits)
Akron (2 recruits)


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  Message Not Read  RE: Recruits from Ohio
   Posted: 1/23/2014 7:40:56 PM 
C Money wrote:
Relevant.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/1/23/5324682/college-football-recruiting-where-do-mac-football-players-come-from

Bowling Green with its location has an edge by being able to tap into Detroit and Chicago while Ohio's never recruited well in those markets. The reliance upon Chicago recruiting by the Michigan schools was surprising to me. NIU doesn't have to move that far out of state with all the talent in Illinois. Ohio's strategy seems to be #1 Ohio In-State, #2 JUCOs for depth, #3 ACC/Big XII under the radar guys. Back in the days of Grobe, Ohio was about 70% In-State with some 3 star guys but a lot of guys that were destined as career backups. The bar is raised so if the staff doesn't find players in-state who meet that bar, they'll opt for a JUCO instead or an out of state target. That is why the instate percentage has dropped to 40-50% and the sharp spike this year means they're cleaning up instate.


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