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Topic: Walsh in Outstanding Company

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Bcat2
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Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 10:09:17 AM

Click the link. Scroll down to 21. When was the last Ohio recruit as highly regarded?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3068;_ylt=Ancq2991zPWuCNIwiqicwPhGPZB4

Last Edited: 1/17/2013 1:54:29 PM by Bcat2

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 2:26:43 PM

Wow...wish I had NOT followed that link. Haven't been keeping up on recruiting lately but I sure hope it ends up a lot better than beating out ONLY Akron and EMU in the recruiting wars!

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 3:40:23 PM

From my observation the services are providing less information this year than ever before, at least for non-BCS schools. None of them seem to be updating the information at all. At this point I think all we'll see the rest of the way is that whoever signs an LOI will get added with a minimum rating, and they will move to 2013. The MAC ratings will be even more useless than prior years.

Interestingly, against this backdrop, we have yet another wanna-be entering the field. All the media powers have to be involved, and so now Fox is jumping in with FoxSportsNext, which so far offers little of value. CBS tried to get in the field a few years back, but seems to have abandoned CSTV for now.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 3:53:49 PM

I dunno LC...most of the other MAC schools have close to 20 guys as verbals. I have confidence in our coaches to find guys. I just hope they are contributing players. What appears to happen after a "bad" recruiting year is a couple of years down the road you lack depth. I think that was the case with the one class not too far back (I think 2010) that was rated about #11 in the MAC.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 4:33:21 PM

Good marks from somewhat detached ratings services = mildly amusing.

Surpassing performance on field and as student-athletes = BIGFUN.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/17/2013 5:56:46 PM

Casper71 wrote:

I dunno LC...most of the other MAC schools have close to 20 guys as verbals. ...

Rivals has rated an average of 8.3 players for each MAC school.
EMU 3
Akron, Ohio 4
Buffalo 6
Kent, WMU, U. Mass 7
NIU, Miami 9
CMU 10
BG, Ball State, Toledo 14

ESPN has rated 6.9 players per team aveage:
Ohio 2
Buffalo, WMU 3
EMU, Akron 5
Kent 6
Miami 7
Ball State, NIU 8
BG 9
Toledo 10
U.Mass 11
CMU 13

With Scout you can't really tell who they have rated and who they haven't since almost everyone gets 2 stars.

247 sports has a lot more of the players rated at 12.6 a team
Akron, Buffalo 6
U.Mass 8
Kent 9
Ohio, WMU 10
EMU 11
NIU 14
BG, Toledo 16
CMU, Ball State 19
Miami 20

I would guess that most teams have 20 or so recruits, yet most of the services have only rated about 1/3 of them. I am skeptical of the value of a team rating when that few individual players have been evaluated. For example, how can a team rating for Ohio make any sense when they have only looked at 2 of the players Ohio has recruited?

Edit - and yes, Casper, the 2010 class was not as good as most classes, and yes, it is hurting depth. In fact, it probably hurt this year as those players were Sophomores, and since depth was definitely needed. There were only 12 Freshmen in that class, and of those, 3 are gone, Snyder, Tarrrant, and Stefanski. The remaining nine include some that are solid players, and others likely to remain backups, but no gamebreakers.

Last Edited: 1/17/2013 10:49:12 PM by L.C.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/18/2013 1:43:04 PM

I did a glance through the recruiting services, and I found that they are keeping up to date just fine on the BCS conferences. They are a bit behind when rating players from the Big East, CUSA, and MWC, but have rated very few players for most teams in the MAC, WAC, or Sunbelt. I have never seen a bias where a kid was rated better for picking a BCS team, but now we're seeing that picking a non-BCS team may mean, not that you get a worse rating, but that you don't get rated at all.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/21/2013 8:00:09 PM

Rivals is still alive, I guess. For the first time in months they add a rating of an Ohio recruit. Justin Wyatt picks up a 5.4 (high 2-star) rating, bringing it to 5 Ohio recruits they have rated.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/21/2013 10:37:22 PM

About time. ESPN rates Wyatt a 3 Star. More like it.

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RE: Walsh in Outstanding Company

Posted: 1/21/2013 10:53:18 PM

WIth Ohio's classes though very much the focus is recruiting for need so we don't have to be loaded with game breakers just address depth. What strikes me with Solich's recruiting is that at every position now Ohio is capable of landing 3 start talent and some of the best skill players to sign with the MAC. We may not land a 3 star at each position every year on the recruiting trail but capable of doing so. Are we going to have enough talent to win in Louisville? They could be ranked in the preseason Top 10.

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