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The 6-1, 200-pounder will graduate this month. This past season, Waters had 43 catches for 694 yards and 6 TD's. 2011 highlight video: Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/13/2011 9:22:38 AM  http://www.omaha.com/article/20111029/SPORTS09/710299841 Last Edited: 12/13/2011 9:28:37 AM by Doc Bobcat Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/13/2011 9:42:32 PM  Me thinks Cat coaches liked his blocking as well. Back to Top AttackCat08 General User Member Since: 1/22/2005 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 2:48:04 AM  Do you think this is the end of our WR recruiting for this class?  Or would we still take someone like Dayne Hammond, Tres Barksdale, or Justin Hardee? Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 5:36:59 AM  AttackCat08 wrote: Do you think this is the end of our WR recruiting for this class?  Or would we still take someone like Dayne Hammond, Tres Barksdale, or Justin Hardee? Could be.....if not maybe just 1 of the 3 you mentioned. Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 10:44:29 AM  Not that anyone will ever fill Riley's shoes...But he looks promising! GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top Paul Graham General User Member Since: 1/18/2005 Location: The Plains, OH Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 3:57:29 PM  Sorry, but I don't really get this pickup. From what I can tell he has no other offers and doesn't look particularly fast. And (I assume) he only has 2 years to play. I trust our coaches, usually, but this signing is confusing. Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 4:16:41 PM  Possession receivers don't need to be lightning quick...They just need good hands and good route skills.  GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 5:41:53 PM  Bobcat36 wrote: Possession receivers don't need to be lightning quick...They just need good hands and good route skills.  Correct and if coach Dixon likes him he must be a warrier/soldier.  Coach Dixon would be the best judge of WR talent in the MAC. I will not be the fan second guesing him.  "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/14/2011 5:43:52 PM  Bcat2 wrote: Bobcat36 wrote: Possession receivers don't need to be lightning quick...They just need good hands and good route skills.  Correct and if coach Dixon likes him he must be a warrier/soldier.  Coach Dixon would be the best judge of WR talent in the MAC. I will not be the fan second guesing him.  He blocks well and has decent YAC's.........combine that with great hands and we should have a winner. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/15/2011 1:49:40 AM  Paul Graham wrote: Sorry, but I don't really get this pickup. From what I can tell he has no other offers and doesn't look particularly fast. And (I assume) he only has 2 years to play. I trust our coaches, usually, but this signing is confusing. I didn't think OHIO was desperate enough at the WR position to bring in a JUCO.. At the DE position that is another story and I can see why they decided to go out and pull in a guy from CC for some depth up front. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/15/2011 10:06:45 AM  I don't understand the criticism.  Again, we have totally solid receivers so Coach Dixon recruits 'em and develops 'em.  It's difficult to not trust Coach given his very fine track record. Frankly, I don't think you're on this squad on this receiver unless you are pretty good...hands, blocking, etc. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,313 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/15/2011 11:22:18 AM  A package deal maybe. Much like the Jones-Turner deal in 2004. And this years Tampa guys. You have to admit that some guys don't mind having a old friend around.  Can you say Beau?  Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/15/2011 5:08:57 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: I don't understand the criticism.  Again, we have totally solid receivers so Coach Dixon recruits 'em and develops 'em.  It's difficult to not trust Coach given his very fine track record. Frankly, I don't think you're on this squad on this receiver unless you are pretty good...hands, blocking, etc. That is because OHIO has in the past with Solich and as a general rule you bring in a JUCO when there is too much of a talent or experience gap within a position unit to be as competitive on the field as you would like to be. Notice that Ohio has moved away from JUCO recruits at QB and RB now that a nice pipeline has been built at both positions. The assumption that I and a few others are going by is that the WR unit is built and we don't need help there. Therefore I think with this recruit is they really liked what they were seeing to the point that they decided to add him in as a best available. Look at how Thad Turner turned out; he was supposed to be the sidecar in that package deal with Brandon Jones but turned out the better player signing a free agent contract with the NFL.  Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Paul Graham General User Member Since: 1/18/2005 Location: The Plains, OH Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/15/2011 8:16:30 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: I don't understand the criticism.  Again, we have totally solid receivers so Coach Dixon recruits 'em and develops 'em.  It's difficult to not trust Coach given his very fine track record. Frankly, I don't think you're on this squad on this receiver unless you are pretty good...hands, blocking, etc. That is because OHIO has in the past with Solich and as a general rule you bring in a JUCO when there is too much of a talent or experience gap within a position unit to be as competitive on the field as you would like to be. Notice that Ohio has moved away from JUCO recruits at QB and RB now that a nice pipeline has been built at both positions. The assumption that I and a few others are going by is that the WR unit is built and we don't need help there. Therefore I think with this recruit is they really liked what they were seeing to the point that they decided to add him in as a best available. Look at how Thad Turner turned out; he was supposed to be the sidecar in that package deal with Brandon Jones but turned out the better player signing a free agent contract with the NFL.  I get the package deal thing...but then which of these guys is the steak and which one is the potatoes? Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,727 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/16/2011 4:46:23 AM  I think all incoming guys are potatoes until they prove they can play at this level. I am questioning this signing and comparing him to other MAC teams Wr's he is nothing special. Is he better than Bussey, Futrell or Dovell ehhh not so sure those guys are good athletes and do well in spot duty. We dont need spot duty once Levon is gone. With that said WR Chris Murray was MVP of a fla all-star game..he looks like a gamebreaker. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/16/2011 9:17:19 AM  Bobcatzblitz wrote: I think all incoming guys are potatoes until they prove they can play at this level. I am questioning this signing and comparing him to other MAC teams Wr's he is nothing special. Is he better than Bussey, Futrell or Dovell ehhh not so sure those guys are good athletes and do well in spot duty. We dont need spot duty once Levon is gone. With that said WR Chris Murray was MVP of a fla all-star game..he looks like a gamebreaker. The entire recruiting process and evaluation is of course interesting to me.  How you determine who you offer no doubt differs from team to team.  How much weight does each team put on the obvious tangibles like speed and size? How much do they break down every aspect as in a WR's hands and speed and size and blocking and YAC's etc. etc.? What do they think about other things like grades and character and leadership....the Tim Tebow effect? Is he better than Bussey or Futrell or Dovell? From a pure athletic sense no. But will he be as or more productive than those 3?  Stay tuned.  Futrell was recruited as a db but has quickness. Dovell mayb be the best of the lot what with his size and seemingly big play ability. I'm waiting for Bussey to have that breakout game and to remain consistent. Will it happen?  Again.....stay tuned. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/23/2011 10:12:47 PM  Well...detractors may say that Waters and his juco mate Branz (DE) may never sniff the Peden turf....but I can tell you one thing....I've damn sure enjoyed watchin their videos. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 12/24/2011 11:45:38 AM  I've questioned in-game coaching decisions by this staff.  But I give the staff a very high grade for the recent recruiting--for the talent level of the young men as well as their ability to fit in (and stick with) with the team, their progress academically (no particularly bad reports), and for their play on the field. It just seems to get better and better. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 10/8/2012 1:16:34 PM  How we feelin about Mr Waters now?? What an outstanding catch Saturday! 2nd and 30 late in the 3rd and tied at 24?  No problem...   GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,727 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 10/8/2012 4:06:01 PM  GREAT PLAY..Solid possession wr fits in well with the group nothing more nothing less. Still hoping we grow,recruit or locate another Brazil or Price. Back to Top OUBobcat13 General User Member Since: 12/7/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 285 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 10/9/2012 8:02:21 AM  Bobcatzblitz wrote: GREAT PLAY..Solid possession wr fits in well with the group nothing more nothing less. Still hoping we grow,recruit or locate another Brazil or Price. I'm thinking we have a few candidates in the pipeline and should start to see one or two emerge in the next year or so... Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 10/9/2012 8:35:04 AM  Speaking of Matt (and Ty)...I found this article fascinating...Impressive to say the least... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20121008/SPORTS/310030101/Iowa-Western-football-has-quickly-morphed-into-junior-college-powerhouse?Sports&nclick_check=1 For those of you that listen to Bill King...The fact that they're located in Council Bluffs cracked me up too... GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top Paul Graham General User Member Since: 1/18/2005 Location: The Plains, OH Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 11/11/2012 4:28:05 PM  Paul Graham wrote: Sorry, but I don't really get this pickup. From what I can tell he has no other offers and doesn't look particularly fast. And (I assume) he only has 2 years to play. I trust our coaches, usually, but this signing is confusing. I stand by this comment. The guy is our seventh WR in terms of catches and gives us nothing we didn't already have. Another boneheaded decision. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,272 Status: Offline     RE: 2012 WR Matt Waters (Iowa Western CC) - OHIO Commit    Posted: 11/12/2012 9:32:17 AM  Paul Graham wrote: Paul Graham wrote: Sorry, but I don't really get this pickup. From what I can tell he has no other offers and doesn't look particularly fast. And (I assume) he only has 2 years to play. I trust our coaches, usually, but this signing is confusing. I stand by this comment. The guy is our seventh WR in terms of catches and gives us nothing we didn't already have. Another boneheaded decision. When you recruit a JUCO,  the goal isn't to get a star. The goal is to get a role player to help out a position that is short-handed. He has been exactly that, a solid role player. Foster has 518 yards in receptions, followed by Bussey at 266. Waters is one of 7 players that in the cluster that comes next, with between 166 and 200 yards. Here's a list of prior JUCO's: 2005 - Earvin Jackson, S 2005 - Voncarie Owens, RB 2006 - Alan Goff, DL 2006 - Chido Nwokocha, WR 2007 - Erik Ejikke, OLB 2007 - Theo Scott, QB 2008 - Hilton Dawson, S 2008 - Boo Jackson, QB 2008 - Corey Moncrief, DL 2008 - Patrick Tafua, S 2009 - Kadre Pinder, OL 2010 - Kenny Ashley, RB 2010 - Octavius Leftwich, CB 2010 - Omar Leftwich, CB 2010 - Joe Morales, ILB 2011 - Mose Denton, CB 2011 - Tyler Knight, TE 2011 - Brad Spivey, DE 2012 - Ty Branz, DE 2012 - Matt Waters, WR 2012 - Tim Edmond, ILB 2012 - Wade Wells, DE I believe that Nwokocha, Ejikke, Scott, Jackson, Tafua, and Omar Leftwich were the only regular starters from this group, while many of the rest were role players, and some never even showed up. I'd put Waters in the upper half of this group in terms of his contributions, and he isn't even a Senior yet. With all the injuries at WR, I'm more than a little surprised that anyone would question this addition at this point. Last Edited: 11/12/2012 9:37:20 AM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 47 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football Recruiting' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 251 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 251 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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