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   Posted: 6/14/2012 7:49:19 AM 
Which position and when?

Last Edited: 7/18/2012 11:01:05 AM by Kinggeorge4

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 9:46:45 AM 
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
Which position and when?


I'll say QB.....and now.....haha.....well that didn't take long KG....your post did....check out my Wish List....Walsh of Dublin has been my QB since day 1.....nice get.....maybe someone does actually read this board...haha.

Offered by almost all of the MAC schools....great way to get it started....now keep um comin:

http://www.scoutingohio.com/index.php?option=com_comprofi...

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 10:13:02 AM 
Here's a kind of video you hardly ever see....our future QB Walsh (wonder if he's related to Joe) as an 8th grader....I love #3...he'll fit it great with our offense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJ4sQ4jcRk
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   Posted: 6/14/2012 10:28:10 AM 
Wow, that was quick.  Now which position comes next?

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 10:33:03 AM 

This is a very nice start to a class. He has offers from BG, Akron, Toledo, and CMU

5.6 from Rivals, and their #23 QB, fourth highest in state of Ohio
2 stars from Scout, and their #73 QB
ESPN doesn't know he exists yet
247 Sports hasn't rated him yet

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 1:20:56 PM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
Here's a kind of video you hardly ever see....our future QB Walsh (wonder if he's related to Joe) as an 8th grader....I love #3...he'll fit it great with our offense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJ4sQ4jcRfk



It's amazing what a high level youth football is played at these days. It's obviOUs this kid has been training to be a QB for a long time. Pretty flawless mechanics by 8th grade.
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   Posted: 6/14/2012 1:24:42 PM 
L.C. wrote:

This is a very nice start to a class. He has offers from BG, Akron, Toledo, and CMU

5.6 from Rivals, and their #23 QB, fourth highest in state of Ohio
2 stars from Scout, and their #73 QB
ESPN doesn't know he exists yet
247 Sports hasn't rated him yet



3 stars from Rivals, the three ahead of him in Ohio are all 4 stars.

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 1:32:56 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
L.C. wrote:

This is a very nice start to a class. He has offers from BG, Akron, Toledo, and CMU

5.6 from Rivals, and their #23 QB, fourth highest in state of Ohio
2 stars from Scout, and their #73 QB
ESPN doesn't know he exists yet
247 Sports hasn't rated him yet



3 stars from Rivals, the three ahead of him in Ohio are all 4 stars.


But he's also rated ahead of 3 star Mitch Trubisky who has verbaled to North Carolina.....Trubisky is good...real good.
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   Posted: 6/14/2012 1:45:48 PM 
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
Wow, that was quick.  Now which position comes next?


It begins.  Fine QB coach, fine WR coach, huge investment in OL/WR/TEs.  Mr Walsh did not have to look long at Ohio to see it is a place for a QB to succeed.  Me now bowing toward the coaches offices.

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 1:52:22 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
Wow, that was quick.  Now which position comes next?


It begins.  Fine QB coach, fine WR coach, huge investment in OL/WR/TEs.  Mr Walsh did not have to look long at Ohio to see it is a place for a QB to succeed.  Me now bowing toward the coaches offices.


+1
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   Posted: 6/14/2012 2:28:27 PM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
Wow, that was quick.  Now which position comes next?


It begins.  Fine QB coach, fine WR coach, huge investment in OL/WR/TEs.  Mr Walsh did not have to look long at Ohio to see it is a place for a QB to succeed.  Me now bowing toward the coaches offices.


+1


Me too!  Building a very good program now!

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 3:02:06 PM 
The funny thing is, just the other day I was wondering when someone would post a thread with a title like "Worst recruiting class ever", or "How come we don't have any recruits yet when such-and-such school has 4?". I'm guessing that after watching the quality of recruits that Ohio is getting, people are resisting the urge, and being patient.

It  looks to me like the teams are just going to keep getting better and better, and 2011 will prove to be just another step up, not the top.

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   Posted: 6/14/2012 8:31:45 PM 
Very Nice!  I agree L.C.

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   Posted: 6/19/2012 7:45:32 AM 

Do we get a WR or TE next now that this years QB is in the fold?  Which defensive position verbals first?

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   Posted: 6/19/2012 8:41:37 AM 
Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:

Do we get a WR or TE next now that this years QB is in the fold?  Which defensive position verbals first?



RB or DT

Might not hear about some things in the works, transfer or JUCO

Last Edited: 6/19/2012 8:42:34 AM by Bcat2

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   Posted: 6/19/2012 11:11:47 AM 
Really, of more interest to me will be whether the trend continues towards earlier and earlier commits. Not so long ago there were few verbals prior to January, and what few there were were people that were under-the-radar guys, perhaps with family connections. That isn't to say they were bad players, mind you. For example, Curtis Meyers was a good player that fits that profile - early commit, under the radar, family connection.

Back then the word was you could hold your Ohio offer until the end of January, and see what else came in, and it would be fine. Gradually that has changed. Each year the classes fill earlier. They may offer 20 linemen, for example, and want four. Once they have 4 commits, the other offers are pulled. Thus, a high school student with an offer can hold his offer for awhile, now, but I wouldn't recommend waiting until January.

I see the earlier commits as a very positive sign. To me it is an indication that more and more Ohio is becoming a desired destination, not a place to go if "you don't get a better offer". I'm hopeful that Ohio gets a couple more commits this summer, and then they keep flowing in at steady pace in the fall. I'd love to see, say, 10 by the end of November.

Rivals has some old data on recruiting, with the commit dates, but the data before 2005 is missing or suspect. Since 2005 was a class put together at the last minute due to a coaching change, that data isn't all that relevant. Here is what I see:
               By June    Jul      Aug     Sept      Oct       Nov       Dec       Jan       Feb
2005           0            0         0          0           0          0           0         20         6
2006           0            0         0          0           0          3           1           9         6
2007           0            0         0          1           1          1           4           5         9
2008           0            0         0          0           0          0           9           2         9
2009           0            0         0          2           0          3           2           3        11
2010           0            2         1          2           1          0           0           3         7
2011           2            2         3          0           0          0           0           4         5
2012           0            0         0          4           1          1           4           5         4  
2013           1

The trend is clear towards more early recruits, and less late ones. It isn't dramatic, year to year, but over a long period, the tend is obvious.



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   Posted: 7/2/2012 9:41:10 AM 
1st defensive verbal is a safety!  1st two verbals are big likes!

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Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote:
1st defensive verbal is a safety!  1st two verbals are big likes!


Yeah....beating a bunch of other schools....including Fiami on both verbals......me likey.
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   Posted: 7/2/2012 6:54:23 PM 
Now it is looking like
               By June    Jul      Aug     Sept      Oct       Nov       Dec       Jan       Feb
2013           1            2

I'm guessing this class will end up with about 20 in it. Things are running about the same as 2011 as far as early acceptances. If they come in like that, and we don't see the sept-nov gap that happened in 2011, the class could be mostly full by Thanksgiving. That will eventually happen, I think, and when it does, Ohio can start being very selective with the last 4-5 scholarships.

Last Edited: 7/2/2012 6:59:31 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 7/4/2012 7:18:42 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Really, of more interest to me will be whether the trend continues towards earlier and earlier commits. Not so long ago there were few verbals prior to January, and what few there were were people that were under-the-radar guys, perhaps with family connections. That isn't to say they were bad players, mind you. For example, Curtis Meyers was a good player that fits that profile - early commit, under the radar, family connection.

Back then the word was you could hold your Ohio offer until the end of January, and see what else came in, and it would be fine. Gradually that has changed. Each year the classes fill earlier. They may offer 20 linemen, for example, and want four. Once they have 4 commits, the other offers are pulled. Thus, a high school student with an offer can hold his offer for awhile, now, but I wouldn't recommend waiting until January.

I see the earlier commits as a very positive sign. To me it is an indication that more and more Ohio is becoming a desired destination, not a place to go if "you don't get a better offer". I'm hopeful that Ohio gets a couple more commits this summer, and then they keep flowing in at steady pace in the fall. I'd love to see, say, 10 by the end of November.

Rivals has some old data on recruiting, with the commit dates, but the data before 2005 is missing or suspect. Since 2005 was a class put together at the last minute due to a coaching change, that data isn't all that relevant. Here is what I see:
               By June    Jul      Aug     Sept      Oct       Nov       Dec       Jan       Feb
2005           0            0         0          0           0          0           0         20         6
2006           0            0         0          0           0          3           1           9         6
2007           0            0         0          1           1          1           4           5         9
2008           0            0         0          0           0          0           9           2         9
2009           0            0         0          2           0          3           2           3        11
2010           0            2         1          2           1          0           0           3         7
2011           2            2         3          0           0          0           0           4         5
2012           0            0         0          4           1          1           4           5         4  
2013           1

The trend is clear towards more early recruits, and less late ones. It isn't dramatic, year to year, but over a long period, the tend is obvious.





This is a great post! LC always brings it.
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   Posted: 7/4/2012 8:35:20 PM 
bobcat28 wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Really, of more interest to me will be whether the trend continues towards earlier and earlier commits. Not so long ago there were few verbals prior to January, and what few there were were people that were under-the-radar guys, perhaps with family connections. That isn't to say they were bad players, mind you. For example, Curtis Meyers was a good player that fits that profile - early commit, under the radar, family connection.

Back then the word was you could hold your Ohio offer until the end of January, and see what else came in, and it would be fine. Gradually that has changed. Each year the classes fill earlier. They may offer 20 linemen, for example, and want four. Once they have 4 commits, the other offers are pulled. Thus, a high school student with an offer can hold his offer for awhile, now, but I wouldn't recommend waiting until January.

I see the earlier commits as a very positive sign. To me it is an indication that more and more Ohio is becoming a desired destination, not a place to go if "you don't get a better offer". I'm hopeful that Ohio gets a couple more commits this summer, and then they keep flowing in at steady pace in the fall. I'd love to see, say, 10 by the end of November.

Rivals has some old data on recruiting, with the commit dates, but the data before 2005 is missing or suspect. Since 2005 was a class put together at the last minute due to a coaching change, that data isn't all that relevant. Here is what I see:
               By June    Jul      Aug     Sept      Oct       Nov       Dec       Jan       Feb
2005           0            0         0          0           0          0           0         20         6
2006           0            0         0          0           0          3           1           9         6
2007           0            0         0          1           1          1           4           5         9
2008           0            0         0          0           0          0           9           2         9
2009           0            0         0          2           0          3           2           3        11
2010           0            2         1          2           1          0           0           3         7
2011           2            2         3          0           0          0           0           4         5
2012           0            0         0          4           1          1           4           5         4  
2013           1             2

The trend is clear towards more early recruits, and less late ones. It isn't dramatic, year to year, but over a long period, the tend is obvious.





This is a great post! LC always brings it.



I hope it turns out like 2011 where players jumped on early.....it sometimes is like a domino effect where players want to be with the athletes who have already verbaled. In the end it can be a free-for-all with players gobbling up the remaining schollies.

It is extremely better than the "old days" when we had to wait until Feb. 6 and grab a USA today for the list.....a list that too many times had guys with great heart but who were a tad smaller and slower then many of the others. I got so tired of us getting a 6'5"-240 lb tackle who was supposed to "grow" into the position....good luck.
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   Posted: 7/5/2012 3:09:28 PM 
4 verbals as of 7/5 is awesome.  2 on each side.  All look great!  Times sure have changed since I started watching OHIO football in 1986.

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   Posted: 7/10/2012 1:22:42 PM 
Looking even better 5 days later!! Is it football season yet?
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   Posted: 7/10/2012 8:01:22 PM 
Since Buddy asked in another thread how we are doing competing against other MAC schools, here's the data on players offered by both schools, who chose one or the other. It doesn't include players that were offered by two MAC schools, but who chose someone else:
                   Ohio      Other School
v. Toledo        3                  2
v. Akron         3                  0
v. Ball St        4                  0
v. BG             3                  0
v. WMU          3                  0
v. CMU           2                  0
v. Miami          1                 1
v. Kent            1                 0
v. EMU            0                 1
v. Buffalo        0                 1

All told Ohio has six recruits that have other MAC offers, and have had 5 players they offered choose other MAC schools. This is about three times better than any prior year. I can only guess that some of the factors are:
1. indoor practice facility
2. Being on national TV 6 times, winning 5, including bowl
3. Having the highest winning percentage in the MAC over the last 5 years
4. Getting people drafted consistently, plus many free agents
5. Having people making national honor lists
6. Highest preseason ranking in the MAC
7. Developing a winning tradtion
8. Coaching stability
9. Great fans
10. Great game-day atmosphere
11. Beautiful Campus
12. No popped collars
13. Academic support program

Last Edited: 7/10/2012 8:01:53 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 7/10/2012 10:23:59 PM 
Thanks for the stats LC, you save us a lot of work around here.  Now we just got to find a way to stop EMU and Buffalo from stealing our recruits.

Obviously we owe a ton of our recruiting success to coach Solich, but dare I say that we are getting to the point where the program actually sells itself?  I still think there is another tier of more elite athletes we can realistically get to (i.e. Boise, TCU, lower half Big Ten), but beating out the Mac teams is a good start.  Hopefully we don't drop off the map again when Solich eventually retires.
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