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I am happy and impressed with how this class is shaping up, which brought up the core discussion point we had. It seems as if Ohio is bringing in talent that is getting BCS offers as well. And Ohio as a program is getting to a point where recruits would rather play for a "non-aq" championship contender instead of the Minnesota's and Indiana's of the BCS world. I feel that Ohio might not be the next Boise but the program is definitely heading in the right direction. I am very excited for the future and this new trend offers me even more excitement. When I was a kid  and cheering on the Bobcats during the Knorr era I never would of imagined Ohio would get to this point.  Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 4:14:16 AM  Good time to be a Bobcat follower, indeed.  This team has the potential to have no weak unit on O and D.  Potential.  I'd like to see the special teams come on, too.  Maybe the young guys first make their marks there. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Business_Cat General User Member Since: 11/17/2011 Post Count: 251 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 9:09:07 AM  Ohiofan23 wrote: When I was a kid  and cheering on the Bobcats during the Knorr era I never would of imagined Ohio would get to this point.  I never followed sports at all growing up. So for a second year Bobcat fan, I really have no references to compare the current 'Cats to. Did we ever get 2-3 star recruits prior-Solich?  You know what Frank Solich likes most about coaching in the MAC? While he gets older, his coaching competition stays the same age, man. The real O-H-I-O Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 9:58:37 AM  It'sAllAboutTheGreen wrote: Ohiofan23 wrote: When I was a kid  and cheering on the Bobcats during the Knorr era I never would of imagined Ohio would get to this point.  I never followed sports at all growing up. So for a second year Bobcat fan, I really have no references to compare the current 'Cats to. Did we ever get 2-3 star recruits prior-Solich?  We usually had 1 or 2 guys of the 3 star variety with a BCS offer not 6 with BCS offers like we do this year. Also the last minute surprises to the recruiting class were never of the variety of the highly touted. It was always second tier career practice player type guys that nobody else was recruiting. Jim Grobe may have had one year where he was able to pick up quality offensive lineman but one of his best transferred from the Cats to Michigan where he was all first team Big Ten. Signing a 300 pounder out of college was a rarity in those days and what the staff would do is sign guys in the 250-275 range in hopes of bulking them up. Solich right away started signing bigger lineman like Marcellis Williamson. Then recruiting at the QB position was always a challenge. The Cats only had 2 Wide Receivers in the program during the option days. The program always recruited good Defensive Backs and usually stud linebackers. Kicker and Punter positions always solid. The was always having enough physical play on the lines and developing a credible passing attack Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,274 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 12:23:11 PM  It'sAllAboutTheGreen wrote: I never followed sports at all growing up. So for a second year Bobcat fan, I really have no references to compare the current 'Cats to. Did we ever get 2-3 star recruits prior-Solich? I didn't follow the Bobcats back then, but I did look retroactively at some Knorr recruiting classes. He definitely brought in some guys that could play, like Kalvin McRae, Dion Byrum, and Matt Muncy. I'm not sure they had many stars, but they had ability. The problem, though, was that in every Knorr recruiting class there were a large number of players that never contributed, and that meant that teams were very thin, depth-wise. The big difference in the Solich classes, from the start, has been that top to bottom virtually every player they recruit contributes, and that means you have depth across the board. That allows much more substitution, so the teams don't wear down, either in games, or across the season, and it means that except when there is an unfortunate concentration of injuries at a single position, that injuries haven't kept the Bobcats from competing. Having teams that are solid, top to bottom, has been enough to compete with BCS teams on the field, but not enough to get over the hump to where they usually come out on top. Last years class was better, and this year's class even more so, to where I think they can make that next step, and become good enough that they are a threat to win any game. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 1:26:42 PM  L.C. wrote: It'sAllAboutTheGreen wrote: I never followed sports at all growing up. So for a second year Bobcat fan, I really have no references to compare the current 'Cats to. Did we ever get 2-3 star recruits prior-Solich? I didn't follow the Bobcats back then, but I did look retroactively at some Knorr recruiting classes. He definitely brought in some guys that could play, like Kalvin McRae, Dion Byrum, and Matt Muncy. I'm not sure they had many stars, but they had ability. The problem, though, was that in every Knorr recruiting class there were a large number of players that never contributed, and that meant that teams were very thin, depth-wise. The big difference in the Solich classes, from the start, has been that top to bottom virtually every player they recruit contributes, and that means you have depth across the board. That allows much more substitution, so the teams don't wear down, either in games, or across the season, and it means that except when there is an unfortunate concentration of injuries at a single position, that injuries haven't kept the Bobcats from competing. If you take all the phases of recruiting In-state MAC level, JUCOs, FA-GA sleepers, transfers, walk on program no other MAC program is recruiting as well as Ohio across the board. Some schools are doing well in Florida, some schools are doing well in-state, some are finding success with JUCOs. I would say about half of the programs on the MAC are just out to build some depth with 50% class FCS grade. Akron typifies that as they've signed a bunch of in-state guys we wouldn't even take a look at. If there had to be sore point is that both Toledo and Kent State beat us head-to-head for 3 star RBs after Patterson was signed. One advantage other programs in the MAC do have on Ohio in the recruiting trail is they can offer an easier chance to start right away which is important for some recruits. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,274 Status: Offline     RE: Interesting thought about recruiting    Posted: 1/30/2012 7:28:29 PM  The flip side is that Ohio can offer coaching stability, which the others can not offer, with the exception of WMU. Look at the coaching tenures in the MAC. Assuming no more hires/fires before next year: 0 years (new coach next year) - Akron, Toledo 1 year - NIU, Ball State, Temple, Kent, Miami (OH) 2 years - CMU, EMU, BG, Buffalo 3 years - none 4 years - none 5 years - none 6 years - none 7 years - Ohio, WMU Looking at the same data a different way, a student graduating this year, having played 5 years, at most schools would have seen a number of different coaching staffs. Over the last 5 years: 1 Staff - Ohio, WMU 2 staffs - EMU, Temple, Kent, BG, Buffalo 2 staff, but will be different next year - Akron, Toledo 3 staffs - NIU, Buffalo, CMU, Ball State, Miami The fact is that at most schools a player can expect that they will not finish their career with the same staff they start with Besides the advantage of coaching stability, Ohio also has a solid track record of player development, in terms of putting players in a position where they can be drafted or sign a free agent deal with the NFL. Ohio is now seeing multiple players a year getting a shot at the next level. Most of the other staffs haven't been in place long enough yet to know how they will do, and, to be honest, the ones that do a good job will probably move to another coaching position anyway. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 7  of 7 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football Recruiting' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 376 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 374 Guests 2 Registered Users:   Pataskala, Doc Bobcat There are no other users looking at this page.

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