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Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/27/2012 9:31:26 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: According to Mike Dyer of the Cincinnati Enquirer, Cincinnati Colerain DT Trae Clark is visiting this weekend. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/football/recruiting/pla... When we say Big Fish we mean BIG FISH. I've had this guy on my Wish List team from day one....even after the plethora of other offers.....the fact that we offered first and he stayed uncommitted gave me some hope....now he's visiting and hope grows.....talkin about cloggin the friggin middle. Last Edited: 1/27/2012 9:33:03 PM by Doc Bobcat Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,568 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/27/2012 9:49:23 PM  From what I've read on Rivals, it looks like a lot of schools were waiting for him to get a qualifying test score. Not sure where that stands.  Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top GoCats! General User Member Since: 10/8/2011 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 28 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 12:36:31 PM  Just looking at the short list of college choices for Clark, I think it's incredible that we are up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas. And this isn't the only case where Ohio is right there with perennial powerhouse schools in bringing recruits on board. Yet another testament to the quality of the program and how far it has come! Back to Top PutnamField General User Member Since: 9/20/2007 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 303 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 1:18:37 PM  GoCats! wrote: Just looking at the short list of college choices for Clark, I think it's incredible that we are up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas. And this isn't the only case where Ohio is right there with perennial powerhouse schools in bringing recruits on board. Yet another testament to the quality of the program and how far it has come! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the MAC allows partial qualifiers and/or nonqualifiers in a way that far exceeds most BCS conferences. There was a minor controversy several years ago when Chuck Amato complained about Akron using this to its advantage against N.C. State (ironic now that Amato's at Akron).  Again, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Ohio is not "up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas" or "right there with perennial powerhouse schools," signaling "another testament to the quality of the program." it seems more likely that, instead, the staff is using this loophole to try to bring in academically marginal athletic studs such as Lewis and Clark (not the explorers). Back to Top GoCats! General User Member Since: 10/8/2011 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 28 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 1:47:25 PM  PutnamField wrote: GoCats! wrote: Just looking at the short list of college choices for Clark, I think it's incredible that we are up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas. And this isn't the only case where Ohio is right there with perennial powerhouse schools in bringing recruits on board. Yet another testament to the quality of the program and how far it has come! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the MAC allows partial qualifiers and/or nonqualifiers in a way that far exceeds most BCS conferences. There was a minor controversy several years ago when Chuck Amato complained about Akron using this to its advantage against N.C. State (ironic now that Amato's at Akron).  Again, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Ohio is not "up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas" or "right there with perennial powerhouse schools," signaling "another testament to the quality of the program." it seems more likely that, instead, the staff is using this loophole to try to bring in academically marginal athletic studs such as Lewis and Clark (not the explorers). I like my theory better. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 1:56:51 PM  PutnamField wrote: GoCats! wrote: Just looking at the short list of college choices for Clark, I think it's incredible that we are up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas. And this isn't the only case where Ohio is right there with perennial powerhouse schools in bringing recruits on board. Yet another testament to the quality of the program and how far it has come! Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the MAC allows partial qualifiers and/or nonqualifiers in a way that far exceeds most BCS conferences. There was a minor controversy several years ago when Chuck Amato complained about Akron using this to its advantage against N.C. State (ironic now that Amato's at Akron).  Again, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Ohio is not "up there in the conversation with Michigan and Arkansas" or "right there with perennial powerhouse schools," signaling "another testament to the quality of the program." it seems more likely that, instead, the staff is using this loophole to try to bring in academically marginal athletic studs such as Lewis and Clark (not the explorers). My read on this is the staff divides the recruiting effort into MAC level and "Special" talent. Early in the recruiting period the staff is offering high academic, but MAC top level 3 star type guys in-state to fill its long term needs. Then after that the staff is addressing specific needs by going JUCO, BCS level players that slip through the cracks, or talented partial qualifiers. The numbers I read during the season said we had 54 redshirts on the 2 deep out of 60. That says were keeping the door open for 10 to 12 play right away scholarship guys on the roster. Factoring in injury redshirting down the road that is 4 spots yearly for a talented JUCO to boost the 2 deep (like Leftwich last year) for immediate help. If Ohio is allowed to sign up to 25 why not 4 highly touted partials in the hopes that 1 or 2 of them pan out? Kevin Ashley didn't for the Cats but you miss all the shots that you don't take. Tim Edmonds 2.0 (the linebacker) is becoming a Cat this season after enrolling in a community college. Miami isn't willing to take partials and its showing on playing field having lost 6 straight to both OHIO and UC. Either you want to have a serious football team or you don't. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,274 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 2:51:30 PM  I would say that the perfect example of what Ohio is trying to do is Jon Lechner. The big guys stayed away because he hadn't fully qualified. Ohio took a shot, and he was able to get qualified, so he was able to enroll and be eligible as a Freshman. In other cases, they have routed them through JUCO, or prep school, but we are talking about a relative few, 1-2 a year. Contrast that with IIemple, where they do substantially more, perhaps 5 a year. If you do too much with marginal qualifiers it can come back to bite you in the form of APR issues, which IIemple has had, but Ohio has not. Last Edited: 1/28/2012 2:55:03 PM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,998 Status: Offline     RE: Another Big Fish Visiting    Posted: 1/28/2012 3:03:15 PM  L.C. wrote: I would say that the perfect example of what Ohio is trying to do is Jon Lechner. The big guys stayed away because he hadn't fully qualified. Ohio took a shot, and he was able to get qualified. In other cases, they have routed them through JUCO, or prep school, but we are talking about a relative few, 1-2 a year. Contrast that with IIemple, where they do substantially more, perhaps 5 a year. If you do too much with marginal qualifiers it can come back to bite you in the form of APR issues, which IIemple has had, but Ohio has not. Good point of the need to balance any strategy with APR. That is why Ohio has placed such an emphasis on academics with its rank and file signings like Watson and Patterson though are also top grade MAC level talent. Temple's program has benefited by the rise of Rutgers in that Rutgers is now taking in the top level guys that had gone in the past to the Big Ten leaving the mid level recruits to Temple. Rutgers hard look at Temple's coach sounds as if they are concerned about local recruiting again with Syracuse and Pittsburgh upgrading to the ACC. Temple has been winning with more local access "meat and potatoes" players than Akron, Kent State and Buffalo. Ohio is winning with superior offensive schemes and more speed on defense, which I would attribute partially by taking in guys like Leftwhich to fill voids and program redshirting to its full extent. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 9  of 9 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football Recruiting' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 264 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 264 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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