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General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,274 Status: Offline     Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 12:46:23 AM  With the class starting to fill up, the game of musical chairs should begin soon, with players racing to accept their offers and take the last few spaces in the class. This is going to be Solich's best class at Ohio when it's done. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,314 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 10:09:28 AM  Where are the offensive WR, RB, QB to make it the best?  Doesn't seem well rounded to me-lots of good lineman, LB, not many offensive backfield or defensive backfields. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 10:30:44 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Where are the offensive WR, RB, QB to make it the best?  Doesn't seem well rounded to me-lots of good lineman, LB, not many offensive backfield or defensive backfields. We have one of the best RB's in the state in this class in Hammonds from Solon. We're also welcoming a transfer from Iowa State (Blankenship) and return 7 others. We have been light in RB's in the past, but how many do you need in a one  running back offense? If we have zero WR's in this class it will not bother me one bit. WR is the deepest and most talented position on OUr team. I count about 15 returning from last year's roster with names like Brazil.... Dunlap....Bussey....Foster...etc. To me the cherry on this sundae will be the QB. I think we're waiting on an answer from Derrius Vick, but in the waiting period have entertained some equally talented QB's. Vick is going to Nebraska next week and in lieu of an offer from them may get something like a preferred walk-on status...will be up to him to choose....my bet would be that he comes here. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,314 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 12:31:52 PM  Doc Bobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Where are the offensive WR, RB, QB to make it the best?  Doesn't seem well rounded to me-lots of good lineman, LB, not many offensive backfield or defensive backfields. We have one of the best RB's in the state in this class in Hammonds from Solon. We're also welcoming a transfer from Iowa State (Blankenship) and return 7 others. We have been light in RB's in the past, but how many do you need in a one  running back offense? If we have zero WR's in this class it will not bother me one bit. WR is the deepest and most talented position on OUr team. I count about 15 returning from last year's roster with names like Brazil.... Dunlap....Bussey....Foster...etc. To me the cherry on this sundae will be the QB. I think we're waiting on an answer from Derrius Vick, but in the waiting period have entertained some equally talented QB's. Vick is going to Nebraska next week and in lieu of an offer from them may get something like a preferred walk-on status...will be up to him to choose....my bet would be that he comes here. We have just 3 remaining schollie RB's on the roster plus the 2 you mentioned still only adds up to 5-not very many on a D-1 roster regardless of style of play.  I'm not so sure you should count the walk-ons too much.  How many yards did they have this year?  As to how many you need-you need 1 outstanding one for sure and  you also need some backups as well. As for WR, I'm looking for 1-2 minimum per year.  We're going to lose some good ones next year so I think you need to have some good ones coming up in each class as well. I'm looking at balance for the long term, not just for next year.  But that's just the way I look at it. Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 12:46:30 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Doc Bobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Where are the offensive WR, RB, QB to make it the best?  Doesn't seem well rounded to me-lots of good lineman, LB, not many offensive backfield or defensive backfields. We have one of the best RB's in the state in this class in Hammonds from Solon. We're also welcoming a transfer from Iowa State (Blankenship) and return 7 others. We have been light in RB's in the past, but how many do you need in a one  running back offense? If we have zero WR's in this class it will not bother me one bit. WR is the deepest and most talented position on OUr team. I count about 15 returning from last year's roster with names like Brazil.... Dunlap....Bussey....Foster...etc. To me the cherry on this sundae will be the QB. I think we're waiting on an answer from Derrius Vick, but in the waiting period have entertained some equally talented QB's. Vick is going to Nebraska next week and in lieu of an offer from them may get something like a preferred walk-on status...will be up to him to choose....my bet would be that he comes here. We have just 3 remaining schollie RB's on the roster plus the 2 you mentioned still only adds up to 5-not very many on a D-1 roster regardless of style of play.  I'm not so sure you should count the walk-ons too much.  How many yards did they have this year?  As to how many you need-you need 1 outstanding one for sure and  you also need some backups as well. As for WR, I'm looking for 1-2 minimum per year.  We're going to lose some good ones next year so I think you need to have some good ones coming up in each class as well. I'm looking at balance for the long term, not just for next year.  But that's just the way I look at it. And that's the way that you should look at it. I think for these last few slots it's almost best player available.....if you have to pick between an impact lineman or a so-so RB then I think you go with the impact player. I'm not sure how many schollies we have left but if it's 3 I wouldn't mind a QB....a RB...and a CB. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 2:39:46 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Doc Bobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Where are the offensive WR, RB, QB to make it the best? Doesn't seem well rounded to me-lots of good lineman, LB, not many offensive backfield or defensive backfields. We have one of the best RB's in the state in this class in Hammonds from Solon. We're also welcoming a transfer from Iowa State (Blankenship) and return 7 others. We have been light in RB's in the past, but how many do you need in a one running back offense? If we have zero WR's in this class it will not bother me one bit. WR is the deepest and most talented position on OUr team. I count about 15 returning from last year's roster with names like Brazil.... Dunlap....Bussey....Foster...etc. To me the cherry on this sundae will be the QB. I think we're waiting on an answer from Derrius Vick, but in the waiting period have entertained some equally talented QB's. Vick is going to Nebraska next week and in lieu of an offer from them may get something like a preferred walk-on status...will be up to him to choose....my bet would be that he comes here. We have just 3 remaining schollie RB's on the roster plus the 2 you mentioned still only adds up to 5-not very many on a D-1 roster regardless of style of play. I'm not so sure you should count the walk-ons too much. How many yards did they have this year? As to how many you need-you need 1 outstanding one for sure and you also need some backups as well. As for WR, I'm looking for 1-2 minimum per year. We're going to lose some good ones next year so I think you need to have some good ones coming up in each class as well. I'm looking at balance for the long term, not just for next year. But that's just the way I look at it. We have to look at who gets redshirts. Part of this class will RS breaking up the class over two years. Happens every year. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,274 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 4:24:33 PM  Individual classes don't each need to be perfectly rounded. Some years there is a lot of talent available at one position, so you stock up. Sooner or later things average out, though. The last few years recruiting has been very light at DE, where ideally you'd take 2 a year, more or less, since you need at least 4-5 in rotation. In 2008 there was only one, Scott. In 2009 the only one was a gray-shirt, Nic Barber. In 2010 they added onl y a transfer, Kyle Kozak.  What happens when you go three years with very light recruiting at one position? Well, first of all it becomes a recruiting priority. Secondly it becomes tempting to recruits since they see that they may be able to come right in and play. Next thing you know, you plug the hole with some great recruits. That's what we're seeing with the DE recruits in this class. In dubbing this Solich's best class at Ohio, here's a reason to back that statement up. We can start by comparing the average Rivals ratings: 2006 - 5.09 2007 - 5.07 2008 - 5.23 2009 - 5.28 2010 - 5.31 2011 - 5.42 Of course, Rivals doesn't have any real stake, and there could be general grade inflation. So, let's look at different data, the number of schools kids turned down to accept Ohio offers, on average: 2006 - .8 2007 - .9 2008 - 1.9 2009 - 1.5 2010 - 1.3 2011(so far) - 2.8 I think you can see why I think this looks like it will be a great class. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 6:52:09 PM  L.C. wrote: Individual classes don't each need to be perfectly rounded. Some years there is a lot of talent available at one position, so you stock up. Sooner or later things average out, though. The last few years recruiting has been very light at DE, where ideally you'd take 2 a year, more or less, since you need at least 4-5 in rotation. In 2008 there was only one, Scott. In 2009 the only one was a gray-shirt, Nic Barber. In 2010 they added onl y a transfer, Kyle Kozak. What happens when you go three years with very light recruiting at one position? Well, first of all it becomes a recruiting priority. Secondly it becomes tempting to recruits since they see that they may be able to come right in and play. Next thing you know, you plug the hole with some great recruits. That's what we're seeing with the DE recruits in this class. In dubbing this Solich's best class at Ohio, here's a reason to back that statement up. We can start by comparing the average Rivals ratings: 2006 - 5.09 2007 - 5.07 2008 - 5.23 2009 - 5.28 2010 - 5.31 2011 - 5.42 Of course, Rivals doesn't have any real stake, and there could be general grade inflation. So, let's look at different data, the number of schools kids turned down to accept Ohio offers, on average: 2006 - .8 2007 - .9 2008 - 1.9 2009 - 1.5 2010 - 1.3 2011(so far) - 2.8 I think you can see why I think this looks like it will be a great class. All good. Now I am wondering if the athletes currently on the depth chart and from the scout team can handle next year without these kids. I would like to see most redshirt. I really believe the value of an athlete as a RS senior far outweighs what they would contribute as a true freshman. JMHO. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 8:49:36 PM  I agree about the value of redshirting, Bcat2.  But we are thin at d-line so some of those guys are pretty likely to see the field. We're okay at running back.  But my face likes us to have that 2-running back set out there fairly often, with one of the movers being 215 or more lbs--230 or more lbs does not scare me either. Last Edited: 1/12/2011 8:50:34 PM by Monroe Slavin Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,314 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 9:47:52 PM  L.C. wrote: Individual classes don't each need to be perfectly rounded. Some years there is a lot of talent available at one position, so you stock up. Sooner or later things average out, though. The last few years recruiting has been very light at DE, where ideally you'd take 2 a year, more or less, since you need at least 4-5 in rotation. In 2008 there was only one, Scott. In 2009 the only one was a gray-shirt, Nic Barber. In 2010 they added onl y a transfer, Kyle Kozak.  What happens when you go three years with very light recruiting at one position? Well, first of all it becomes a recruiting priority. Secondly it becomes tempting to recruits since they see that they may be able to come right in and play. Next thing you know, you plug the hole with some great recruits. That's what we're seeing with the DE recruits in this class. In dubbing this Solich's best class at Ohio, here's a reason to back that statement up. We can start by comparing the average Rivals ratings: 2006 - 5.09 2007 - 5.07 2008 - 5.23 2009 - 5.28 2010 - 5.31 2011 - 5.42 Of course, Rivals doesn't have any real stake, and there could be general grade inflation. So, let's look at different data, the number of schools kids turned down to accept Ohio offers, on average: 2006 - .8 2007 - .9 2008 - 1.9 2009 - 1.5 2010 - 1.3 2011(so far) - 2.8 I think you can see why I think this looks like it will be a great class. There is no "could" in grade inflation.  Rivals has gone from 4.9 for their lowest grade in 2004 to 5.2 now so that grading method dosen't work  to prove much of any improvement in quality.    We'll need to see how the other methods of grading turn out, but the offer thing sounds good. Back to Top TomCat General User Member Since: 2/13/2006 Post Count: 53 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 11:14:47 PM  Speaking of this year's class, or any year's for that matter.  Anyone know why recruiting services like Rivals list and rank JUCO transfers, but fail to include D1 ransfers in their reckoning?  I know you can check the year they were recruited by by the previous institution and get the star rating at that time. Why then is that player and rating not carried over to the transfer university and listed among that year's class?   For example, Roback, Blankenship, Prior, Kozak. TomCat Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,219 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 11:22:35 PM  TomCat wrote: Speaking of this year's class, or any year's for that matter.  Anyone know why recruiting services like Rivals list and rank JUCO transfers, but fail to include D1 ransfers in their reckoning?  I know you can check the year they were recruited by by the previous institution and get the star rating at that time. Why then is that player and rating not carried over to the transfer university and listed among that year's class?   For example, Roback, Blankenship, Prior, Kozak. Recruiting services are more than fickel......they continually give recruits an extra star depending on who they verbal to. Back to Top John C. Wanamaker General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 1,103 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/12/2011 11:51:34 PM  Because they do not count as recruits, nor do they sign NLI's. "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/13/2011 12:19:02 AM  ANyone seen comments from decent sources about how we rate in MAC and nationally? Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,314 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/13/2011 10:42:58 AM  Monroe Slavin wrote: ANyone seen comments from decent sources about how we rate in MAC and nationally? When I checked yesterday, Scout had us 93 in the nation, 7th in the MAC (10 commits). Rivals has us 5th in the MAC.    Not so good, but they didn't have several of our guys-maybe they had everybody else-not likely.  Looks like a normal year to me, except as LC says we're getting more competitive guys as far as offers.  Also more 3 star guys than normal-that may be a grade inflation as well.. Last Edited: 1/13/2011 11:17:42 AM by colobobcat66 Back to Top Sir Wins-A-Lot General User Member Since: 1/13/2011 Post Count: 1 Status: Offline     RE: Class should fill up pretty fast, now    Posted: 1/13/2011 9:11:49 PM  I think I remember a quote from Solich saying that skill position players are easy to recruit.  It's the talented linemen who are hard to get.  I assume that's why there has been such a large focus on linemen this year. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 16  of 16 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football Recruiting' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 269 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 269 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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